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[AmyNeudaiz]

I do not have a Relic and I do not want to keep the one I got for free. There would be just that much less for me to work on in 2.0 and that's just not fun for me.

Just my 2 cents.

That being said, I don't understand anyone who is mad about people getting free relics AFTER THE SAVE.

[Warlock]

I do not have a Relic and I do not want to keep the one I got for free. There would be just that much less for me to work on in 2.0 and that's just not fun for me.

Just my 2 cents.

That being said, I don't understand anyone who is mad about people getting free relics AFTER THE SAVE.

You say that here on your high horse but deep inside you are craving and wishing to keep them DON'T LIE!! :O

[AmyNeudaiz]

You say that here on your high horse but deep inside you are craving and wishing to keep them DON'T LIE!! :O

No.

I am a gamer who enjoys EARNING what she has. It's like most of the fun, why would you want that taken away from people?

If I had the choice to keep or not, I'd throw it away.

[EnkiOro]

No.

I am a gamer who enjoys EARNING what she has. It's like most of the fun, why would you want that taken away from people?

If I had the choice to keep or not, I'd throw it away.

I'm sorry but your reasoing is so flawed. I know we won't keep them, and even if I'd like to, I think it's better that way. Not because I'm morally opposed or because I want to "earn" it, but simply because it's just a silly event. C'mon guys, you have GMs Rick Rolling people...

And I'm sorry, but get out of your moral high horse. You wouldn't throw it away. You "earn" NOTHING in this game. Relic quest starts based on RNG dropped seals (unless top 3), your doublmeld is also dependant on RNG. To be honest, saying you'd rather "earn" it, is just craving for attention. I myself was pretty lucky, got all my seals upon 9 or so days before save, and got my doublemeld 1/1. Do you think I earned it? Because I don't. Yes, I might have put in a lot of hours, but not more than some of my friends working on their second relics, and trust me, if they got to keep new relics, they would.

Hope I didn't come off as a jerk, but to be honest, stop posting about what you think you should post and actually post what you really feel about the situation. It'll come out more natural, too!

[AmyNeudaiz]

I'm sorry but your reasoing is so flawed. I know we won't keep them, and even if I'd like to, I think it's better that way. Not because I'm morally opposed or because I want to "earn" it, but simply because it's just a silly event. C'mon guys, you have GMs Rick Rolling people...

And I'm sorry, but get out of your moral high horse. You wouldn't throw it away. You "earn" NOTHING in this game. Relic quest starts based on RNG dropped seals (unless top 3), your doublmeld is also dependant on RNG. To be honest, saying you'd rather "earn" it, is just craving for attention. I myself was pretty lucky, got all my seals upon 9 or so days before save, and got my doublemeld 1/1. Do you think I earned it? Because I don't. Yes, I might have put in a lot of hours, but not more than some of my friends working on their second relics, and trust me, if they got to keep new relics, they would.

Hope I didn't come off as a jerk, but to be honest, stop posting about what you think you should post and actually post what you really feel about the situation. It'll come out more natural, too!

You did come off as a jerk.

High horse? Really? Because I say that I do not want a free Relic I'm on a moral high horse? Did you not even read my post?
I want to earn it because I get satisfaction from earning my equipment. I'm the type of person who enjoys that sort of thing. I would throw it away and I wouldn't regret it one bit.
And as someone who complained a lot about the RNG in the quest, I was one of the first people to praise them for the latter part of the quest that does take time and skill which makes you "earn" it.

The fact that you get so defensive with people disagreeing and talk about "morals" when it wasn't even relevant shows me that YOU think it's wrong. I am just giving my opinion on this thread and what I would do and for you to tell me I shouldn't or that I wouldn't is absurd to say the least.

We shouldn't get to keep them, end of.

[EnkiOro]

You did come off as a jerk.

High horse? Really? Because I say that I do not want a free Relic I'm on a moral high horse? Did you not even read my post?
I want to earn it because I get satisfaction from earning my equipment. I'm the type of person who enjoys that sort of thing. I would throw it away and I wouldn't regret it one bit.
And as someone who complained a lot about the RNG in the quest, I was one of the first people to praise them for the latter part of the quest that does take time and skill which makes you "earn" it.

The fact that you get so defensive with people disagreeing and talk about "morals" when it wasn't even relevant shows me that YOU think it's wrong. I am just giving my opinion on this thread and what I would do and for you to tell me I shouldn't or that I wouldn't is absurd to say the least.

We shouldn't get to keep them, end of.

You're not on a moral high horse if you don't want to keep it, but you're talking down everyone that would keep it. That's what what makes your post so unlikable.
It's really laughable that you're talking about "earning" equipment, when the only equipment that you can really earn is the one bought with gil, if you craft/meld it yourself or with friends. In a game where drops like Darklight are so hard to drop, with countless hours on my back with a static doing at least 6 runs of 5-chest daily, and I only have an Eyepatch to show for it, yet some other player will go there and get it on their first run ever, while being carried over by other players. You call that earning gear? Wow, guess you must know something I don't because this game is LUCK, when it comes to earning equipment. Relic yes, you may have to work on Ifrit Extreme, but that's about it.

I enjoy working hard for my equipment, did in FFXI for many years and so do now, here. I don't think that for cherishing the illusion that we might keep the relics (spoiler alert: we won't) and calling out on people that say they would throw them away I'm acting as such a jerk. I've seen this kind of entitled attitude before, and it is really disgusting.

I don't get defensive about "people" disagreeing, I get upset with seeing so much crap written by the same poster, over and over again. You're narcisistic and you keep feeding yourself on your own dellusional world, and your signature proves it. I hope you keep posting, because everytime you do, it gets even more amusing. Anyway, I'm done with this petty argument, next time if you actually want to have a decent and actual discussion, don't open it with name calling. (I was being retorical with the jerk snip, but guess that flew over your head)

[Endu]

The Kitten of War is wondering why this thread is still going.....


But seriously, I'm glad SE decided to let the unwashed masses such as myself play around with relics for a few days. Made it easier for me to decide which one I would try and complete when 2.0 drops (I don't have the kind of free time some of you crazy kids have, so 1 is probably as far as I'll go).

I hope they make the weapons & the quest to obtain them more epic though.... I'm really not overly impressed by the weapons tbh. They are extremely nice, don't get me wrong.... But I completed a relic in XI (Amanomurakumo), equipping that GKT for the first time and running out with friends in tow to test out Tachi: Kaiten was just such an awesome feeling. Hell I even loved tagging along with friends from other linkshells to see them test out new relics in XI just to see the new weaponskills. These relics in XIV just don't have that same type of feeling.

But who knows, maybe when they make them upgradable the unique weaponskills will come back. I'll work on the quest regardless in 2.0, just so I can say I completed at least one them. But I do hope they bring back that epic feeling of power you had when you got one in XI.

But enough of my rant, let's summarize this topic;

1. Guy #1 wants to keep his temporary relic even though there is no chance in hell this will ever happen.
2. Other guys come in and also want to keep theirs.
3. Even more guys come in and are outraged that guy #1 and friends would even dare to suggest such a thing.
4. All these guys start a pointless argument & general internet forum hijinks & shennanigans insue.
5. Guy #1 more than likely sits back and smirks while stroking his evil genius goatee and looking over his handiwork.
6. The Kitten of War ponders what the purpose of it all was?

[AmyNeudaiz]

Pointless blander

I'm sorry but are you sure you even replied to the right person in the first place? Most of what you're saying has NO bearing to what I said whatsoever on this post and your previous.
Where did I talk down to people? Where did I even talk about anything other than "I do not want to keep the free relics" in the first place?

The f**k are you even talking about on the rest of your post? Narcissistic? Delusional world? Seriously, what does this have anything to do with this thread? As for my sig, I put that there because I respect who said it and I'm not the only person with a sig like it. To call me Narcissistic over that is an insane assumption.

And as for being petty and insulting, let's review your last post here:

I'm sorry but your reasoing is so flawed. I know we won't keep them, and even if I'd like to, I think it's better that way. Not because I'm morally opposed or because I want to "earn" it, but simply because it's just a silly event. C'mon guys, you have GMs Rick Rolling people...

And I'm sorry, but get out of your moral high horse. You wouldn't throw it away. You "earn" NOTHING in this game. Relic quest starts based on RNG dropped seals (unless top 3), your doublmeld is also dependant on RNG. To be honest, saying you'd rather "earn" it, is just craving for attention. I myself was pretty lucky, got all my seals upon 9 or so days before save, and got my doublemeld 1/1. Do you think I earned it? Because I don't. Yes, I might have put in a lot of hours, but not more than some of my friends working on their second relics, and trust me, if they got to keep new relics, they would.

Hope I didn't come off as a jerk, but to be honest, stop posting about what you think you should post and actually post what you really feel about the situation. It'll come out more natural, too!

Saying my "reasoning is flawed" because I want to earn my gear, telling me I wouldn't throw it away even after I stated twice I would, telling me I'm just saying it because I crave for attention and YOU were the one who hoped you weren't coming off as a jerk, I just told you that you did and lastly you telling me not to post what I think. All because I disagreed that we should keep our free relics and stated I would not keep mine if I had the choice. To put simply, WTF dude.

[Lavieh]

You're not on a moral high horse if you don't want to keep it, but you're talking down everyone that would keep it. That's what what makes your post so unlikable.
It's really laughable that you're talking about "earning" equipment, when the only equipment that you can really earn is the one bought with gil, if you craft/meld it yourself or with friends. In a game where drops like Darklight are so hard to drop, with countless hours on my back with a static doing at least 6 runs of 5-chest daily, and I only have an Eyepatch to show for it, yet some other player will go there and get it on their first run ever, while being carried over by other players. You call that earning gear? Wow, guess you must know something I don't because this game is LUCK, when it comes to earning equipment. Relic yes, you may have to work on Ifrit Extreme, but that's about it.

I enjoy working hard for my equipment, did in FFXI for many years and so do now, here. I don't think that for cherishing the illusion that we might keep the relics (spoiler alert: we won't) and calling out on people that say they would throw them away I'm acting as such a jerk. I've seen this kind of entitled attitude before, and it is really disgusting.

I don't get defensive about "people" disagreeing, I get upset with seeing so much crap written by the same poster, over and over again. You're narcisistic and you keep feeding yourself on your own dellusional world, and your signature proves it. I hope you keep posting, because everytime you do, it gets even more amusing. Anyway, I'm done with this petty argument, next time if you actually want to have a decent and actual discussion, don't open it with name calling. (I was being retorical with the jerk snip, but guess that flew over your head)

I'm really curious to how hard you tried on the relic quest, or if you got it done or even flagged. Also your concept is a little skewed, RNG actually makes it so you have to work harder for things. Countless hours of AV/CC for Darklight drops - Thats hard work. You think the people with a good amount of darklight just got it out of sheer luck? Or because they did AV/CC as much as they could, same thing with the Seals in hamlet. Heck me and my LS spent hours farming up mats before hamlet and then hours doing hamlet until everyone got their seals. We worked hard for it, very hard actually. Weapon melds? Rng sure... But also a bit of work unless you have the gil to be lazy. I leveled up my BTN and ALC just to make my whm relic, worked my lala butt off farming Trillium and doing what I could with every synth. I eventually made my own double melded Alkuaraps(sp?) and turned that in. AV/CC 17 minute runs... You think that is pure luck? I hardly doubt it the only bit of RNG that can hamper that is Coincounter spamming AI or Marshal spamming cures BUT even with those set backs the 17 minute runs are all a matter of skill. Same thing the 15 DH run (Which is super easy), Faction quest, Garuda, Ifritx all fights you have to put effort into not to mention Spiritbonding your relic... which if you do it solo thats a few hours of dedicated killing or if some people help you thats like 3 hrs per person.

People like you are really the bane to modern MMO's because you don't realize how big of a role RNG plays on the game and how balanced it keeps things. How RNG makes your hard work show. Because when the odds are 1% sure there MAY be some luck involved but it also takes dedication because statistically you'd have to do the w/e you are doing 100 times to just see one.


Eh, I guess people will have differing views on things. But it just seems that you are posting to post as your post itself was going around in circles and just ended with a general insult to the person you were replying to. Kind of sad :C

[Ruisu]

And I'm sorry, but get out of your moral high horse. You wouldn't throw it away. You "earn" NOTHING in this game. Relic quest starts based on RNG dropped seals (unless top 3), your doublmeld is also dependant on RNG. To be honest, saying you'd rather "earn" it, is just craving for attention. I myself was pretty lucky, got all my seals upon 9 or so days before save, and got my doublemeld 1/1. Do you think I earned it? Because I don't. Yes, I might have put in a lot of hours, but not more than some of my friends working on their second relics, and trust me, if they got to keep new relics, they would.

So what's less than 10% of the quest being RNG is representative of the entire quest being RNG? lolno.