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  1. #131
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    Churchill's Avatar
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Guys, if I spiritbond it myself then it's free.
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  2. #132
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    Pretz Pretz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    The problem here is that you are clinging to a phrase and not the implications of it. Damage doesn't matter if the BLMs are pulling hate off the tank. In those cases you need to generate more enmity, and I showed mathmatically how it's possible to generate more enmity with a GG axe depending on your other gear. Everyone is arguing that claim is wrong, you even agreed with it yourself.

    If you have optimal gear for Garuda's Scream (ie. 350 str and 320 VIT, or the equivilent via attack power) then it is the best axe besides a Relic. But if you have sub-optimal gear, the GG axe with a good enmity meld can be better. This is the same claim I've been making, worded differently. Folks on the other side of this discussion are trying to claim otherwise. I want logic and mathmatical proof why they think thier claim holds weight, I have not yet seen any.
    Let's conceed that your Giantsgall produces more enmity when compared to a Garuda's Scream. When making that comparison you must assume that everything else remains constant (other gear, equal method of hate gain, equal party member gear and hate, etc).

    The part that you're not taking into account is that if you deal less damage, then your DD's have 'increased' hate gain, not equal. If you are doing less damage, then your target has more HP that your DD's have to make up for. So, if everything is constant with you except for your Axe change, then there is a scenario in some fights where a BLM needs to cast extra spells or whatever, and that is the tipping point where the capability to deal more damage is more valuable then the enmity you receive for doing it.
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  3. #133
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    Hmmm why can't ppl just accept Giantsgall weapons can have an use lol ...its not that complicated like every piece of gear in the game that is crafted is trash w/o materia on it same goes for GG weapons and they are good for the average player ... an upgrade to make it easier get the "best" stuff later...ppl getting butthurt by molly comparing the two Axes i guess their account included Garuda's scream when they started playing :P
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Guys, if I spiritbond it myself then it's free.
    Yes it is..whats your point? lol
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  5. #135
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    Azran Hayat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Hmmm why can't ppl just accept Giantsgall weapons can have an use lol ...its not that complicated like every piece of gear in the game that is crafted is trash w/o materia on it same goes for GG weapons and they are good for the average player ... an upgrade to make it easier get the "best" stuff later...ppl getting butthurt by molly comparing the two Axes i guess their account included Garuda's scream when they started playing :P
    because if it isn't the best it doesn't exist
    didn't you know?
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  6. #136
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    Kaplan Homahru
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    nothing in this game is serious enough to justify this ridiculous thread.
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  7. #137
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Yes it is..whats your point? lol
    Probably that it still costs the same price whether your farm it via spiritbond, farm gil from skins/etc, craft, gather. It costs the same, it isn't free.
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  8. #138
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    um, actually the first time i did it i was the right party lvl... and skirmish was lvl 50 content i thought, it would make more sense if it was lvl 40 maybe i guess.
    Skirmish is for people who don't have killed Garuda yet. I think you have already killed Garuda many times?
    In another words, your char is too strong for Skirmish.
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  9. #139
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    I'll also point out that the spreadsheet posted valued Auto attack damage too high for Warrior and also valued Accuracy way too low for a tanking Warrior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Skirmish is for people who don't have killed Garuda yet. I think you have already killed Garuda many times?
    In another words, your char is too strong for Skirmish.
    ^ This pretty much is the bottom line... if you are capable of winning Garuda w/o issues you are too strong for it you have overcome that level ...syntaxlies wants harder mode skirmish? why didn't he mention moogles? darkhold? caravan? :P put a extreme mode on every thing lol aside from the fack this game is dying in a few days -_-;
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