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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthis View Post
    lol, you mean it's only against the law if you get caught I wish I had know that before attending law school. Since I am at work and can't look up the ToS, is it just because this is for an item or would it also be a breach to say sell (for real-life money) the service of helping someone clear the normal Raven fight so they can finish the storyline?

    Oh, and sorry for hijacking the thread.
    Anything to do with Money is against TOS of course you could pay ingame money for items in game without issue. But anything to do with real life money to buy ingame goods are against TOS. But like you said if you get caught then they could ban you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Anything to do with Money is against TOS of course you could pay ingame money for items in game without issue. But anything to do with real life money to buy ingame goods are against TOS. But like you said if you get caught then they could ban you.
    As I stated, you are not paying for an in-game item, you are paying people to clear a quest for you. Using BG as an example:: BG never own's the White Ravens, therefor they cannot sell it to you. You are paying BG to help you complete the quest, The Raven, Nevermore.

    snipsnip - anyways cut out the rest of this post as its pointlesssss cuz of the edit below::

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    Checked EULA

    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any ... in-game services, ...

    So yes, it is against the ToS because its an in-game service they are providing (clearing the quest)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any ... in-game services, ...

    So yes, it is against the ToS because its an in-game service they are providing (clearing the quest)
    Thank you. Stupid rule but clarifying post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    As I stated, you are not paying for an in-game item, you are paying people to clear a quest for you. Using BG as an example:: BG never own's the White Ravens, therefor they cannot sell it to you. You are paying BG to help you complete the quest, The Raven, Nevermore.

    snipsnip - anyways cut out the rest of this post as its pointlesssss cuz of the edit below::

    -Edit

    Checked EULA

    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any ... in-game services, ...

    So yes, it is against the ToS because its an in-game service they are providing (clearing the quest)
    ya even if it a quest it against the TOS you using real life money for ingame stuff so ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    Checked EULA

    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any ... in-game services, ...

    So yes, it is against the ToS because its an in-game service they are providing (clearing the quest)
    Except they're not trading the service for "real-world money or value," they're trading the service for in-game money, which is no different than someone paying you gil to power-level their character; it's the difference between paying gil for someone to do it and paying someone with real money outside the game to do it .

    The whole part I highlighted because they go together; it's "real-world money or value" not "real-world money" or "value." This is to cover using money, gold, any sort of real-world goods, etc. being used as a trade for in-game services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkor View Post
    Except they're not trading the service for "real-world money or value," they're trading the service for in-game money, which is no different than someone paying you gil to power-level their character; it's the difference between paying gil for someone to do it and paying someone with real money outside the game to do it .

    The whole part I highlighted because they go together; it's "real-world money or value" not "real-world money" or "value." This is to cover using money, gold, any sort of real-world goods, etc. being used as a trade for in-game services.
    I was answering the question in post #41, where it was asked if selling these for real money was against the ToS or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    I was answering the question in post #41, where it was asked if selling these for real money was against the ToS or not.
    Just re-read the post you had quoted initially and I see where I missed that. Apologies.
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