New NMs

[Scarface]

Let's try to think from the SE view:

If SE make a lot of easy NM spawn 21hrs with incrediable equipment so player want to camp it...

-> EU players, US players, JP playsers will camp it try to voke it, a lot of frustration from loser but eventually some hardcore player will get it.

-> Hardcore will prove they're good by equiping it, also sell extra copy on AH/Ward with expensive price

-> Most Player who can't camp the NM will try their best to buy the rare drop, try makeing gils by crafting, farming, grouping with LS to fight HNM, event, to gain gil... or even skip the whole thing and buy gil on the web.

-> then a lot of RTM player will show up and camp for it,

In summary, hardcore player will play, regular player will play, RTM player will play.

Who benifit? SE and the whole community becuase a lot of player keep online to make the game more lively.

So, Why not ?

I'm sorry, but your entire post makes me question if you even play FFXIV. There isn't even an Auction House, nor RMT, because everyone is rich....

Moving on.

What makes gear rarity so important over challenging content? It's a ridiculous argument for the sake of being ridiculous.

Because CHALLENGING Content will eventually (1 month) not be a challenge and will be come routine, just like the mobs we have now. Make sense?

[Visch]

Oh I'm not trying to insult anyone, but you're constant nonsensical arguments for a system that has no place in the game is keeping me here. People constantly disagree with you to which you reply with the same arguments over and over again and then defend your flawed logic with statements that make even less sense than... well, less sense than a 24 hour windowed NM!

Flawed logic? Less sense? You're the one completely lying and making stuff up.

I have completed everything this game has to offer and I will continue to do.

Right...
4,275 > 16,511

[Isaaru]

Then don't add more? Most of it is people like you with nothing to say or people who don't even know what they're talking about.

lol you're mad.

And yeah people who don't know what they're talking about, you fall in that category.

[AdvancedWind]

I'm sorry, but your entire post makes me question if you even play FFXIV. There isn't even an Auction House, nor RMT, because everyone is rich....

>Nor RMT.

Are you sure he is the one who's not actually playing?

[Scarface]

>Nor RMT.

Are you sure he is the one who's not actually playing?

Ever since the earthquake there have been no RMT. None. Can't you tell? How much are shards on your server? All makes sense now, eeh?

Anyways, back on topic please.

[Visch]

lol you're mad.

And yeah people who don't know what they're talking about, you fall in that category.

Lol you're mad @ thread.

This thread is the biggest waste of bandwidth. 75 pages of the same thing repeated over and over. Redundancy is redundant.

>Nor RMT.

Are you sure he is the one who's not actually playing?

Are you playing? Everyone has like 40+ Mil. You make money from leveling up. The economy is completely whaked and there is no way RMT can make any money because everyone is loaded and nothing is worth anything.

[Isaaru]

Lol you're mad @ thread.

No I just think it's hilarious how you don't understand the concept of a challenge over having long respawn times.

[Keftenk]

Lol you're mad @ thread.





Are you playing? Everyone has like 40+ Mil. You make money from leveling up. The economy is completely whaked and there is no way RMT can make any money because everyone is loaded and nothing is worth anything.

I see you're still doing a lot of bold and rash assuming.

Gil is definitely easy to come by, but it's all relative. You have people that have amassed more gil then others; not this "everyones rich" scenario you claim. There just isn't any gil sink in the game yet.

[Scarface]

No I just think it's hilarious how you don't understand the concept of a challenge over having long respawn times.

It's funny how you don't understand that challenges aren't challenges anymore real fast. Hence needing another layer of "CHALLENGE" IE: Limitation of spawns/kills, low drop rates, competition, etc...

[Carmillia]

Seriously... this isn't about "HARD" NMs. This isn't about making all drops come from 21-24hr NMs. This isn't about botting, or camping or TIME SINKS. This is about making gear rare, and this is ONE of the ways to do it.

Difficult instances eventually will not be difficult.
Low drop rate will always remain.
Time limitations will always remain.
Competition will always remain in 21-24hr NMs.

If 10 LSs are doing the same "rare gear" instance every week.. In a month, half the server is gear out.
If 10 LSs were competing over 1 mob every 21-24 hrs.. One LS will get lucky off the terrible drop rate and claim, and 3-4 people will have gear in a month...

This is about making gear rare, for the 27th time. Thanks.

Well the very first post was about 24hr HNM so we are discussing pros and cons of such content. That being said, I have to say that I agree that difficult content will eventually lose its challenge the more and more you do it but I don't think that the 21-24hr windowed HNM is the answer to that. I think that if you want some rare gears that are mostly for hardcore players, the relic system of FFXI is more the way to go.
Casuals will still be able to access to that (I said access not actually get them in any reasonnable time frame), camping haters won't be against it (as I am for example) as it is about collecting items for upgrades. Hardcore players will have them far far far before any casuals (So they feel special). Collecting those things don't seem to be a boring (although some sort of time sink) thing to me (you have to do something to get it and no need to wait for a long time even if a short cession).