If Spearfising Gone.... Spearfishing Achievements Gone?

[Gospel]

Umm, doesn't sound like they're removing the achievements. If anything, they may be getting rid of spear fishing but they are not getting rid of the second hand tool function. They're still keeping all the Grades in all the areas they intend to add them at like 1,2,3,4,5 etc. It wouldn't make sense for them to remove the achievements if the actual Grade things you need to net/fish/spear w/e aren't changing. You'll just be approaching those grades with a new mechanic or Second hand tool now.

Short and sweet version: Second hand tool mechanic may be changing but the achievements are -NOT- The achievements only focus on the Grade locations. They aren't going to punish players who have been using their second hand tool. If you miss out on these spear fishing achievements now, don't sweat it. They'll be in ARR, just that now you will be finishing off the rest of the old achievement under a new name and mini game.

[NationOfZealots]

Umm, doesn't sound like they're removing the achievements. If anything, they may be getting rid of spear fishing but they are not getting rid of the second hand tool function. They're still keeping all the Grades in all the areas they intend to add them at like 1,2,3,4,5 etc. It wouldn't make sense for them to remove the achievements if the actual Grade things you need to net/fish/spear w/e aren't changing. You'll just be approaching those grades with a new mechanic or Second hand tool now.

Short and sweet version: Second hand tool mechanic may be changing but the achievements are -NOT- The achievements only focus on the Grade locations. They aren't going to punish players who have been using their second hand tool. If you miss out on these spear fishing achievements now, don't sweat it. They'll be in ARR, just that now you will be finishing off the rest of the old achievement under a new name and mini game.

Can SE provide a little more information (like the above) on what is being removed so I can adjust gameplay accordingly? Or do we have to wait one day before servers go offline for that information? >.>

[Soulfire]

It will probably be as he said.

* Other achievements may undergo changes to their conditions or temporarily become unavailable upon release of A Realm Reborn.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...0c9127bfe4e624

They could just stay off hand fishing achievements using some other tool. But we'll see...

[Atoli]

I'd like to believe what Gospel said but I can't believe it until a com rep actually answers clearly on this..

I don't mind if spearfishing is removed in ARR; while I really liked the animation for it, it never got really useful to me, neither exp-wise nor item-wise.
But the achievements are something different. Gathering achievements are the only achievements I actually care about beside the traveling ones and when it didn't say anything about them being removed for ARR I was really happy because it meant having an unlimited amount of time getting them...I don't want them to be gone T_T
Please tell us they are not going to be removed for ARR.

[Colino]

That’s correct; as you read, since the fishing system will be undergoing changes, we will be removing spearfishing. We’ll be touching on this in an upcoming Topics announcement we’re preparing, so we ask for you to wait a bit for more details.

There were also some people that we worried that since we didn’t show them in the Live video, that secondary tools were being removed in A Realm Reborn – but that’s not the case. We’ll also be making gather points in the same area much closer together.

And why were we not informed about this?

What about all the achievements tied to spearfishing/harvesting/quarrying? I mean what the hell guys? What's the point of a "We're removing these achievements list" if you're removing others as well?

[Alhanelem]

ppl PMSing about the achievement not being on the removed list: gimme a goddanged break. This change was announced after the list was originally published. The list has already been updated once, so you can be sure that it will be updated again.

And why were we not informed about this?

I do believe you were informed about it in the very post you quoted.

There is always going to be a delay between when something is posted on the JP board and when it appears here. It's been the case for all time and will continue to be the case for the rest of time. Deal with it.

As for the rest of your post, read the first part of mine.

I'm also rather laughing about the people who give a care about these achievements in the first place. Nobody cares that you spearfished 10,000 things from <insert grade here> fishing points. NOBODY.

I really don't have anything against achievements, and I'm trying to get what ones I can myself. But if an achievement is removed, so what? Really, so what? Nobody else can get it either. It's especially pointless complaining about certain achievements like get 3218746324 of this or 8327468325 of that that nobody has actually achieved yet. such achievements will just disappear and nobody in the future will even know they existed.

[Zezlar]

They're probably not removing the achievements. Doesn't make sense to have all other Crafter/Gathers have them except Fishing. It will probably just be changed to another form of 2nd hand gathering.

As a side note i'm really glad they are changing fishing. I hope it becomes a fun experience like it was in XI (outside of the nasty skill ups).

[PalidorCarbuncle]

Alhanelem, you also fall under the group of people covered by the disclaimer.

[Empyrean]

What about the harvesting and the quarrying achievements? Will they still be intact?

[Alhanelem]

Alhanelem, you also fall under the group of people covered by the disclaimer.

I really don't give a rats behind about your disclaimer, it's still legitimate discussion. You have no right to tell other people what they can and can't discuss. Since my original post was not a reply to yours, I really don't care whether you find it unwelcome or not, since I wasn't directing it toward you.

It is not going to kill you or ruin the game if the list of removed achievements is expanded. And as previously discussed as you chose to ignore because all you could think about was your disclaimer, They will update the list if it changes. Considering the fact that secondary tools AREN'T being removed, I rather think that they aren't just removing spearfishing (which isn't really spearfishing at all considering you're usually just stabbing at the ground, often not even in water) but replacing it with a new fishing mechanic that might even count towards the same achievements which will be renamed/relabeled appropriately.

The people raging about this have no leg to stand on, considering

1) they were notified by the reps prior to making the complaint. if that's not good enough for you, then there is a faliure on the reader's part to accept the fact that there is always a delay in translation from JP forum to NA forum.
2) They've given them no chance to update the list or at least say they will update it.

What about the harvesting and the quarrying achievements? Will they still be intact?

considering they haven't said that these things are being removed, Assume they are intact until told otherwise.