New NMs

[Scarface]

the point is, if the content could be hard enough so that casual players will take a very long time to get, it will not affect the rarity of the item at all, elites will still be elites, there is no need to make tedious unaccessible content like camping 3hrs.

For the 18th time this isnt instance vs 24hr NM...................................................

[Poipori]

For the 18th time this isnt instance vs 24hr NM...................................................

I'm not debating instance vs 24hr NM.

What I'm trying to say is majority of us here don't want 24hr NM, because with that, there will always be gears that normal player could never ever get, no matter how long it takes.

What is wrong with making content that allow normal player to make a tiny step towards their goal each time they play? like collecting special coins. This will be the best of both worlds, where elites can get their item in like 1month, whereas normal player might take years to get, but at least we will eventually get there.

[Arcell]

What is wrong with making content that allow normal player to make a tiny step towards their goal each time they play? like collecting special coins. This will be the best of both worlds, where elites can get their item in like 1month, whereas normal player might take years to get, but at least we will eventually get there.

That's what they don't want though. They don't want anyone who doesn't play 8+ hours a day to get the super uber leet gear they spent any time getting.

[Visch]

That's what they don't want though. They don't want anyone who doesn't play 8+ hours a day to get the super uber leet gear they spent any time getting.

If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.

[Poipori]

If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

[Visch]

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

If it's killable anyone will be able to kill it which means the gear won't be limited and also there will be no competition.

[Poipori]

If it's killable anyone will be able to kill it which means the gear won't be limited and also there will be no competition.

I don't see how anyone will be able to kill it, if it is really difficult, it could even take hnmls months to kill it.
Also, if there is a reeenter time of 72hr or once a week, the items drop by the boss WILL be rare.

This kind of competition is more revelant, it is the competition of player's skill and gearset trying to defeat a super hard boss.

What kind of competition does camping nm offer? competition of whose internet ping is the best? or who is the luckiest? or who don't need to sleep? it makes no sense.