Cartoony style graphics....

[Seif]

I'm surprised how everybody seems to acknowledge the slight sloppyness of those graphics but at the same time certain that it's wip or "lowest settings mixed with good settings footage".

After all this is all based on your good faith in SE not facts.

Why would any pr material for any game ever be released showing low settings (and no disclaimer saying that) is beyond me.
If it is true then I'll be shocked. I haven't heard any major publisher doing that or even recommending it to be done.

[Elexia]

Note the lack of Depth of Field, or Ambient Occlusion.

"We don't use high settings and all the bells and whistles"

so they're either downgrading the overall detail or they're really hoping their shaders work magic.

Yeah..pretty sure I've already said that.

[Seig345]

(Excuse me)(what?)




Not even remotely similar.

Yes, because I said they looked 100% identical down to the last detail. Good job going overboard there...

[KiriA500]

Yeah..pretty sure I've already said that.

So why is it suddenly the biggest deal? You know they do this...so it shouldn't be an issue.

Yes, because I said they looked 100% identical down to the last detail. Good job going overboard there...

You're the one going with a completely different art style, lol. I'm just pointing out how wrong that statement was.

[Seig345]

So why is it suddenly the biggest deal? You know they do this...so it shouldn't be an issue.



You're the one going with a completely different art style, lol. I'm just pointing out how wrong that statement was.

Guess I'll quote myself here...

I wouldn't go with "cartoony", but there's definitely a Team Fortress 2 quality I've seen on occasion even in the Limit Break trailer...

I said that on occasion there was a TF2 quality to the graphics. I said nothing about the actual art style, let alone anything about it being completely anything, let alone different.

[Elexia]

So why is it suddenly the biggest deal? You know they do this...so it shouldn't be an issue.

The issue comes from this one statement:

While the animations were nice, the development team's number one focus in A Realm Reborn is on gameplay so even though they were nice animations, the team made the decision to remove them.

We know SE is willing downgrading certain aspects, so is it a case of just them no going all out? Or is it the case of them just simply continually dowgrading?

Yoshida touted the "best graphics in the genre", so far this looks just barely early PS3 when FFXI actually had a more polished looked for it at it's time. Is it because it's Alpha? Or is it really because that's the direction they're going with?

Why wouldn't they go all out to show off said 'best graphics'? We know internal builds are usually further than what they'll even let us test, so it shouldn't be a problem.

[KiriA500]

I said that on occasion there was a TF2 quality to the graphics. I said nothing about the actual art style, let alone anything about it being completely.

Well, TF2 is a high quality game in pretty much every way (graphics, sound, etc.), so I take it that's a compliment?

(I still have no clue what you're talking about. I see no similarities in any way/shape/form)

We know SE is willing downgrading certain aspects, so is it a case of just them no going all out? Or is it the case of them just simply continually dowgrading?

Yoshida touted the "best graphics in the genre", so far this looks just barely early PS3 when FFXI actually had a more polished looked for it at it's time. Is it because it's Alpha? Or is it really because that's the direction they're going with?

Why wouldn't they go all out to show off said 'best graphics'? We know internal builds are usually further than what they'll even let us test, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Removing something isn't a downgrade when it's seen as a problem. When Rukkirii said "the development team's number one focus in A Realm Reborn is on gameplay," that means they saw those animations as something that didn't help gameplay. Bitch and moan all you want, it was their decision to remove them. Same goes for most of the UI crap we've had to deal with. Those aren't downgrades, they're clearly upgrades.

[Seig345]

Well, TF2 is a high quality game in pretty much every way (graphics, sound, etc.), so I take it that's a compliment?

(I still have no clue what you're talking about. I see no similarities in any way/shape/form)

It wasn't a compliment or an insult, it was a personal observation and opinion. But if you were offended, I apologize.

Edit: If it helps, I also happen to be a huge fan of TF2.

[KiriA500]

It wasn't a compliment or an insult, it was a personal observation and opinion. But if you were offended, I apologize.

Edit: If it helps, I also happen to be a huge fan of TF2.

I too am a huge fan of TF2, I was mostly just wondering what about it reminds you of the game. As a player with 933 logged hours of the game, I can honestly say I saw no resemblance in any way in the Limit Break trailer. I'm actually just curious what about it reminded you of it. Sorry if I appear to be hostile about it, lol.

[Elexia]

Bitch and moan all you want, it was their decision to remove them. Same goes for most of the UI crap we've had to deal with. Those aren't downgrades, they're clearly upgrades.

It's not bitching or moaning, as you'd have to be upset about it, I just find it highly humorous after all this time they're taking steps backwards at all rather than all steps forward.