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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Except, that's being fixed too.

    Less server response delay + lower ping = hallelujah!
    Then it becomes a question of whether the negligible ping different warrant forcing the split in community. You obviously think it does, but I as part of a multi-region LS that covers all major areas including NA, EU, and Asia, do not. Moreover, as an EVE player, I find the argument that local datacenter is oh-so-important to be laughable at best. We have an unsharded game with the server cluster located in UK, yet I don't hear the Russians or the Japanese or anyone for that matter complaining about not having local datacenters, and PVP in EVE is FAR more SRS BIZNZ than your typical themepark MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Friends get broken up by world merges and server transfers just the same, even if we don't label or regionalize servers. It's a fact of life, suck it up and deal with it or don't play the game.
    /shrug, it's also a fact of life that people may have different opinions and priorities than you, suck it up and deal with it.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    That's not the case here though, the vast majority of the lag in FF14 is caused by SE's piss-poor sorry excuse of a POS server design. If that's not changed, it wouldn't matter if you're playing FF14 next door to the datacenter, you'd still have shitty lag.

    Conversely, if that's fixed, then creating regional servers as a method to combat the current lag problem becomes rather pointless, as they would no longer exist.
    Yes, I understand that as well. What I was referring to was the new infrastructure that will be coming with 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Yup because that's what both parties are saying exactly. Nice hyperbole.
    Had to look up Hyperbole, such a funny name :P. Far from exaggerating, One side wants the lag with Global friends, other side wants faster connection/latency etc.. and then there are some in the middle that want both less lag and worldwide MMO.

    We all want everything out of an MMO.. But "When you want everything out of something, you'll wide up with nothing" A wise old man told me this ( My grandfather R.I.P)
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    It's a old chinese proverb. A man who chases two rabbits lets them both get away, and like everything it doesn't apply to all aspects of life.

    Really the people in the middleground are the people in the right, because the new servers could still be in Japan and would still experience less lag. They were connected to Japan at gamescone with no visible lag on commands or anything showing that the game is much more responsive than it currently is (Probably due to letting more stuff be checked client side).

    But the people for the data centers either don't think it will be enough or are just ignorant to the fact the servers were the issue and not the latency.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    One side wants the lag with Global friends, other side wants faster connection/latency etc.. and then there are some in the middle that want both less lag and worldwide MMO.
    To me it's more like one side wants global community and is willing to accept the negligible latency that comes with it, and another side that wants absolute least amount of latency at all costs.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    It's a old chinese proverb. A man who chases two rabbits lets them both get away, and like everything it doesn't apply to all aspects of life.

    Really the people in the middleground are the people in the right, because the new servers could still be in Japan and would still experience less lag. They were connected to Japan at gamescone with no visible lag on commands or anything showing that the game is much more responsive than it currently is (Probably due to letting more stuff be checked client side).

    But the people for the data centers either don't think it will be enough or are just ignorant to the fact the servers were the issue and not the latency.
    Didn't the Japanese players in FFXI have a small advantage when it came to camping HNMs due to lower latency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    To me it's more like one side wants global community and is willing to accept the negligible latency that comes with it, and another side that wants absolute least amount of latency at all costs.
    Yeah that seems more accurate. I just can't wait for ARR to get here and be done with the back and forth and just play this potential " Awesome" game. That's all that matters to me in the end, that I'm playing an awesome game. The Server related stuff will settle down some time after Launch. People left 1.0 because the game was Horrible, not so much about the servers ( though they were a major issue as well).

    Servers playable + Game Awesome= Success Regional or Global it doesn't matter because in the end I'm playing an awesome game with the servers not stopping me from doing what I'm doing. I'll make new friends keep in contact with the old and we will all be playing happily .
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzak View Post
    Didn't the Japanese players in FFXI have a small advantage when it came to camping HNMs due to lower latency?
    I've never had a hard time outclaiming Japanese players. But I guess I must be a special exception like everything I do.

    Also it's not like there is anything in the game you need to claim faster on, considering 9/10ths of the game is going to be crammed into instances anyways.
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    didnt you all ask for Regional Servers anyway or is that you people have no idea what you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by casevi View Post
    didnt you all ask for Regional Servers anyway or is that you people have no idea what you want
    I don't remember anyone asking for regional servers before they told us about them. That's when a bunch of people jumped on the idea, concidering it was damn near unthinkable that they would do it in the first place.
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