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  1. #51
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    AngelicBeing's Avatar
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    Kekepero Momopero
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Thanks especially to Mamba, Starlord, and all the other people being understanding. Oh, and thanks to those that pointed out sound aggro and walking. Having played FFXI for the better part of a decade, I assumed Imps and Ahriman detect by sight. It probably wouldn't have saved me though, since I teleported in and was already running in the split seconds before Atomos and its horde were visible to me, so I pretty much ran two steps and was face-down before I knew what hit me. Next time I'll see if they'll let me stroll into camp.

    All of you dicks saying "New players need to suck it up, you joined late so screw you, endoftheworldlol" are the same people that are gonna be condescending to ARR newcomers, and that's the last thing this game needs. Keep it up, when ARR hits and all the new players find are a bunch of capped douchebags not giving a damn about them, that could very well be the last nail in the coffin. New players are the only thing standing between you and the death of FFXIV, so cherish every one.

    And to the "Just go somewhere else" crowd, that was impossible. In both instances I was doing quests that sent me SPECIFICALLY to a camp where Atomos now spawns to get a cutscene or talk to someone, so I had no choice but to go there right in the middle of it all. I only had an hour to play, could've cleared a couple more quests, but I spent a decent chunk of it face-down in the dirt waiting for everything to despawn so I could warp back out and get my damn cutscene during the ~5 minutes of peace.

    It would be an entirely different story if they'd kept Atomos away from camps where low-level content *MUST* be completed, rather than *CAN* be completed. This has nothing to do with lacking resourcefulness, this is all about SE putting time-wasting hindrances right on top of existing low-level content and not giving the player any choice in the matter. I was already aware of everything, having run into Atomos at a far-off camp before, but to find it at the very first Ul'dah camp really seemed like a slap in the face for new people. I can only imagine how a fresh new player might feel. If it were my first day of the free trial and I was heading out to Black Brush to get a handle on things, having that ruined by content meant only for high-level players would be a major turn-off. Do none of you remember your first day? Your first leve or quest? Now imagine it with Atomos in the way. Not a great first impression, I'm sure.
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  2. #52
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    Preypacer's Avatar
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBeing View Post
    I'm just trying to get quests done, and twice in the last week I've warped out to a camp only to be one-shotted seconds afterwards, then forced wait for Atomos to clear out so I can get crap done, and hope I could do so fast enough before Atomos and his horde popped right back up again.

    Today it was at Black Brush. Seriously? BLACK BRUSH?? The lowest of low level camps in Ul'dah, where most new/low-level players are likely to be leveling ? Nice.
    People have since explained how all that works since (be in walk mode, etc)... so I won't reiterate that.

    I will say that, if it's any comfort, it's not much better at level 50

    I didn't know about the walk thing either (hadn't encountered Atomos at any camps yet - just lucky I guess). Last night I got dropped in 4 hits upon zoning in and beginning to move.

    So.. don't feel bad! It's not just a new player thing. You're just as dead as a high level player, unless you're *extremely* lucky and can get healed in time to escape.

    That said, it is something that only happens from time to time and so, is easily avoidable as long as you keep track of what time it is and what camps you're going to.

    I think it adds a bit of excitement to things, personally.

    The s@#t is hitting the fan, we're going to hell in a handbasket... and it's beginning to really show.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 09-14-2012 at 07:27 AM.

  3. #53
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    Raven_Reborn's Avatar
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    Fang Striker
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Gawd.. cry babies everywhere ...
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  4. #54
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abauge_Goga View Post

    this type of content is welcomed and needed for about 95% of the server population.
    NOPE It seems like its just a way for the lazy bums who didn't get their ltn gear and rank get their crap real fast before se 'takes their game away'

    You know what did this same *exact* thing (spawn high lvl endgame mobs in lvl 1 area)? A really crappy f2p mmo...
    It doesn't even feel like there's a war going on... now if they had the Imp airships actually landing and invading the cities then maybe...
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  5. #55
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    Punainen Drak
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    Sargatanas
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    The end of the world is gonna be harsh. Get used to it.
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  6. #56
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    Punainen Drak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    NOPE It seems like its just a way for the lazy bums who didn't get their ltn gear and rank get their crap real fast before se 'takes their game away'

    You know what did this same *exact* thing (spawn high lvl endgame mobs in lvl 1 area)? A really crappy f2p mmo...
    It doesn't even feel like there's a war going on... now if they had the Imp airships actually landing and invading the cities then maybe...
    No, you'd just whine about being attacked in the city after that.
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  7. #57
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    Masamune1004's Avatar
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    Isidula Granviir
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    Balmung
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    You know, they might even be doing this purposely to keep new players away. If the major hindrances come from the cataclysmic event, then the new players will say "Well, this will be gone in ARR, so I'll just come back then." It's much better than them playing now and seeing how broken it is and saying "Nothing can fix this mess of a game, I won't bother trying later" or something to that effect.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba View Post
    Lol, I love how "welcoming" people in this game are...

    You know I don't see anyone else whining expect people who have nothing better to do but to whine about new people pointing out an inconvenience if you happen to be a new player to the game lol.

    And Eurynomos as you know... I am not a new player - I have been part of this game since alpha testing and have another character with more than 1 lvl 50. I didn't actually say anything about aggroing or anything so I am not sure why you directed your post to me. BUT to reply: I guess you left Besaid/Balmung because everyone there knew you were just a big ugly troll and no one liked you lol.

    I just think that all you guys saying that new people shouldn't have a word about anything is just blain ignorant and very stupid.

    I really appreciate some of the comments that actually advice that the atomos only pops certain time of the day etc. - THAT is actually being helpful. The rest of you are just whiny bitches who obviously have played games too long and have no social skill what so ever... or are just trolling because quite frankly you have probably done all the content in the game and don't have anything else to do.

    Next time you see a new person, how about you give them constructive advice and stop bitching for one second how they aren't supposed to feel upset about something. I am sure you didn't born with exceptional skills to do everything in the world either.
    Balmung has gotten bad since I came back. Back in the day there were only a handful of asses. Just about everyone else was happy and fun to play with. Now, it's just pathetic... If any one new to Balmung needs any help or advice, add me to your social list and I will help however so that I can.
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  9. #59
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    No, you'd just whine about being attacked in the city after that.
    Not if they did it right... don't you think its a little alienating for a lvl 1 player who barely knows how to play, wonder up to a lvl 1 camp and be destroyed by some event mob they won't even be able to take part in before its gone?

    Whine? WHINE? whine schmien, this could've been a lot cooler... Like when I logged in after that patch that added atomos and those airships, I.. uhh didn't have my texture quality very high ( =<= ) and I thought that the fleet of airships was a fleet of Atomoses... really freaked me out and had me stoked at the same time, deffinetly would have made it feel more apocalyptic.
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  10. #60
    Player Xakery's Avatar
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    Xakery Jones
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    So like this thread should be renamed. I haven't heard such complaining since... oh gosh I don't know if I have ever heard this much complaining before. Oh wait, back in my early days I did complain about power leveling newbs a bunch but gosh. This is a video game, info is everywhere, people are giving advice, so please stop whining.
    You new people haven't been here for the long haul. Most of us have. No wonder a lot of people seem like douches? Do you realize how much crap we've been through?
    If you don't like this now, step back, breathe, wait for 2.0, so dueces.
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