WTF end of billing no legacy staus fml

[Wynn]

The ship sails when I say so. Dont you know western philosophy sheesh keep up man. lol

Also I know you are trying to say its the players who stuck with SE. But the requirement to join is only 3 months. Of the 9 that it has approximately been available for.

So basically they are saying we only need you to be 1/3 a fan. So these people sneaking in under SE conditions are still a 1/3 a fan.

Its not like they are doing what was not intended.

I dont get people talking about "intention for only the good fans" If that was the case they would have said we need you to pay for 9 months straight.

That would have weeded a shit ton of people out.

In my opinion it really should only be for those of us that were literally here from the beginning until now. We're the only ones who actually stuck with SE in this mess. We're the legacy players. Not somebody who comes back in August for a chance to get a discounted price on their sub.

However, we all know the actual requirements so that's irrelevant. SE decided if people paid for three months they'd get this legacy perk. Fine.

So let's get back to the three months. Yep... You're right... three months.

They only needed three (not even consecutive) months which makes it even worse that people who wanted this actually missed it.

There are only so many reasons for this.

A: They couldn't afford it (That sucks. I feel for these people, but that's the way it goes)

B: They didn't know about it (Don't care enough about the game to keep up on it which is the exact opposite of a legacy player. This person will find no sympathy at all from me.)

C: They didn't want it (Doubt they would be here upset about getting this now, but you never know in this community)

D: They waited until the last minute (Can only blame themselves for this.)

kept up with lodestone, read the posts, in August when they game seemed worth paying for, paid for it. Beta isn't here, still willing to pay, they don't want to charge. good for them in an effort to make $5 xtra from me, they'll possibly get nothing.

This has been up for much longer than just August. Again, if you knew about this and still waited until the last minute, then that's your fault. If your reasoning for waiting until August is that this was a terrible game that didn't deserve your money then truly you are the last person who should be designated as a legacy player. You're the exact opposite of one.

[Shougun]

In my opinion it really should only be for those of us that were literally here from the beginning until now. We're the only ones who actually stuck with SE in this mess. We're the legacy players. Not somebody who comes back in August for a chance to get a discounted price on their sub.

However, we all know the actual requirements so that's irrelevant. SE decided if people paid for three months they'd get this legacy perk. Fine.

So let's get back to the three months. Yep... You're right... three months.

They only needed three (not even consecutive) months which makes it even worse that people who wanted this actually missed it.

There are only so many reasons for this.

A: They couldn't afford it (That sucks. I feel for these people, but that's the way it goes)

B: They didn't know about it (Don't care enough about the game to keep up on it which is the exact opposite of a legacy player. This person will find no sympathy at all from me.)

C: They didn't want it (Doubt they would be here upset about getting this now, but you never know in this community)

D: They waited until the last minute (Can only blame themselves for this.)



This has been up for much longer than just August. Again, if you knew about this and still waited until the last minute, then that's your fault. If your reasoning for waiting until August is that this was a terrible game that didn't deserve your money then truly you are the last person who should be designated as a legacy player. You're the exact opposite of one.

I think you are pointing at the tree and saying "Seriously, look you didn't make into the tree".

And I'm saying the reason why he didn't make it was because the roots are all pointing the wrong direction.

Yes if the tree (horrible metaphor?) started out growing right I don't think I'd be so vehement on this thread. However the tree did not start out right and therefore until the roots have been fixed - will never be right.

[SquintyB]

In my opinion it really should only be for those of us that were literally here from the beginning until now. We're the only ones who actually stuck with SE in this mess. We're the legacy players. Not somebody who comes back in August for a chance to get a discounted price on their sub.

However, we all know the actual requirements so that's irrelevant. SE decided if people paid for three months they'd get this legacy perk. Fine.

So let's get back to the three months. Yep... You're right... three months.

They only needed three (not even consecutive) months which makes it even worse that people who wanted this actually missed it.

There are only so many reasons for this.

A: They couldn't afford it (That sucks. I feel for these people, but that's the way it goes)

B: They didn't know about it (Don't care enough about the game to keep up on it which is the exact opposite of a legacy player. This person will find no sympathy at all from me.)

C: They didn't want it (Doubt they would be here upset about getting this now, but you never know in this community)

D: They waited until the last minute (Can only blame themselves for this.)



This has been up for much longer than just August. Again, if you knew about this and still waited until the last minute, then that's your fault. If your reasoning for waiting until August is that this was a terrible game that didn't deserve your money then truly you are the last person who should be designated as a legacy player. You're the exact opposite of one.

I think the point your missing, Is I didn't really care, I started this post to get extra credit for a class, Kept it going when I found out I could get more extra credit. That being said thanks for the post that secured that credit. very appreciated.

Still want legacy tbh, servers going November 11th means that if i resubbed in August thats 4 months I wouldve paid for. oh well

[Artiss2k]

In my opinion it really should only be for those of us that were literally here from the beginning until now. We're the only ones who actually stuck with SE in this mess. We're the legacy players. Not somebody who comes back in August for a chance to get a discounted price on their sub.

However, we all know the actual requirements so that's irrelevant. SE decided if people paid for three months they'd get this legacy perk. Fine.

So let's get back to the three months. Yep... You're right... three months.

They only needed three (not even consecutive) months which makes it even worse that people who wanted this actually missed it.

There are only so many reasons for this.

A: They couldn't afford it (That sucks. I feel for these people, but that's the way it goes)

B: They didn't know about it (Don't care enough about the game to keep up on it which is the exact opposite of a legacy player. This person will find no sympathy at all from me.)

C: They didn't want it (Doubt they would be here upset about getting this now, but you never know in this community)

D: They waited until the last minute (Can only blame themselves for this.)



This has been up for much longer than just August. Again, if you knew about this and still waited until the last minute, then that's your fault. If your reasoning for waiting until August is that this was a terrible game that didn't deserve your money then truly you are the last person who should be designated as a legacy player. You're the exact opposite of one.

I bought a PS3 to play this game... almost 2 years later of that never happening i'm supposed to know about some legacy status? once i got a pc capable of playing it and found out about 2.0 I decided to play the game and THEN I found out about legacy, I didn't try to jump on the game BECAUSE of it.

[mbncd]

Here in Australia, advertisements of deals require little *'s (they don't even have to be easy to see but they do need to be there) that points to any clarifications or disabling factoids on the page/screen/whatever advertising the main thing. That asterisk can even point to a simple, clickable, "check terms and conditions" that will take you to a huge page of legalese. Regardless, it's still there and accessible from the page that talks about it. If there's anything that needs to be known (including all important dates), it's there.

I've had two accounts, one of which has been billing all along and the other started a few days later, both of which are still billing now and will continue to pay for both for many years to come, legacy for life! I'm not trying to fight for my right to get something I already have. I do however agree that we should fight shady business practices such as failure to present all relevant information, up front, in the correct place and format, for the sake of others and for our own futures.

People in general would not like a world in which there were no laws governing how companies present information. Just in the last year or two, Australia has really become quite regulated in this matter. Travel agencies used to advertise flights for $1, then they would tack on $2k (for various hidden taxes and the like) as people signed up. They can't do that anymore, thankfully. Any taxes incurred in a flight are now advertised in the flight fee, not counting optional extras like insurance and what have you.

I recognise that I've gone off track here but the point I'm trying to get at is the same. Relevant information is to be listed (or at least linked to) on the main relevant page. That is really, really, really basic stuff. SE has failed to do that, and continues to fail to do that by leaving that information (or a link to it) off of that page.

I do however disagree that the legacy advertisement should be removed. The page it links to should certainly be updated! However, as things stand now, anyone who has previously paid for two months and then unsubscribed until now can still pay for their last month up until the cut-off date and just squeeze into legacy.

Does that make them any more or less loyal than us? That is not for us to say. Someone can have never bought or played a single Final Fantasy title in their entire life but still be an avid fan. How much you do or do not like/love/respect/whatever something is not for other people to judge. That's a personal matter between you and your heart that has absolutely NOTHING to do with money. People have to get off their gold credit card studded high horses and recognise that the only loyalty/love/etc they have a right to judge is their own. Emotion based elitism is sickening, so much more so than anything else that could split a community. I may be on my high horse right now but that isn't because I think your emotions are any less valid than mine, it's because some people treat others like garbage because they claim some innate right to judge another person's emotions. Treating others badly is not cool.

I'm sorry that this post is long winded and mostly a rant. I try to stay out of stuff for obvious reasons. There were some things here (especially that last paragraph I wrote above) which really irked me and I just had to get them off my chest.

Aside from all of this negativity, and regardless of what you play or do, or if you get legacy or not, I hope everyone has a great time doing whatever makes you happy ^_^




Tl;dr: Yes, they should update the legacy page or at least put a link in the legacy page to the previously posted updated information. No, they should not remove the legacy page, as some people are still eligible to pick up their last month and get in. Don't tell others how loyal they are until you can see directly into their heart, ie: never. Sorry for the long post. Have some bloody fun!

[seuki]

I have legacy and you don't.

[Randelmire]

I have legacy!

[Starlord]

Legacy I have! since the Dawn of time!

[SquintyB]

I have legacy and you don't.

people like this make me not want to play this game regardless of any supplemental bonuses. judging by your signature I could rebut, I have a life and you don't, but to each their own.

[seuki]

people like this make me not want to play this game regardless of any supplemental bonuses. judging by your signature I could rebut, I have a life and you don't, but to each their own.

All I read was 'I don't have legacy'.