Starting to look like a long downtime for 2.0

[Wynn]

I want them to keep it down as long as they have to. This is XIV's last chance. It needs to be as perfect as it possibly can be. It isn't us they need to please. They already know they have us. What they need to do is convince the rest of the world that XIV deserves another chance. They can take as much time as they need as far as I'm concerned.

[Cynthis]

A couple of months ago I predicted 3-5 months downtime and nothing I've read has made me change my mind about that.

[Duelle]

At this point I don't think it would be a bad thing for a longer downtime, considering how many changes are being made to the game. I don't mind waiting. As long as it's good enough to bring people in, I'll be there.

[ShinigamiKayla]

A couple of months ago I predicted 3-5 months downtime and nothing I've read has made me change my mind about that.

I can see 2-4 months really nothing over 5 months they will probably release late February if anything I don't think they want to push it back farther then that again yeh better be done and perfect when released... but seriously lots of game launch after 8 month betas and still have bugs on launch and said bugs ppl still bitch about as if the Beta should of been going on 2 years... there will be some bugs at launch and people are going to bitch about them... hey that is what people are for ya? they wont keep it down too long just enough time to get it done they don't want to lose anymore money but on the same time lose that income of money... 2-4 seems more of a set time lime to me!~

[kurokawa]

There aren't any major MMOs coming out early next year.

Star wars has come and gone. TSW too.

Guild Wars 2 is doing well and out now, with Panda wars coming in a few weeks.

However, give it 4-5 months and everyone will be after a new fix.

ARR fills the hole nicely so I expect Beta to last until Jan, the game to be out in Feb.

I only really see Elder Scrolls being in direct competition, maybe Archage too.

Hopefully they'll plan this way anyway! You never know with SE.

[Matsume]

Honestly, it would appear that Yoshi P is doing his best to get 2.0 out for winter/christmas/new years holiday season.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to point out that the ervers "go down on Nov 11th" and Yoshida's desire that the data transfer take "no more than one month" indicate that Yoshi P projects that 2.0 will go live early to mid december which just so happens to coincide wit hthe gift giving holiday season.

Just my two cents but logic dictates that this would be an ideal launch date.

I understand how pessimistic everyone is and I know well that SE's track record this past year contains frequent patch delays but making snide comments like "SE wont be able to launch 2.0 til March" is beyond rude it's just plain insulting.

You can tell me I told you so when the time comes, i'm just saying from Yoshi's point of view these negative comments really aren't helping in any way shape or form. Sign up for Alpha, then sign up for Beta, be a good tester and report the bugs that you find and maybe *just maybe* you might for once have a positive effect on the development of this game.

[Randelmire]

What I've found interesting about this downtime is that, if substantial, it gives players a time to get their "fix" elsewhere, and perhaps develop an attachment during said downtime there instead. Be it FFXI (imagine if the new expansion pack came out before ARR comes back online), another company's MMO, or even just offline games, not only will SE be trying to attract new players, but they'll have to work towards convincing those that have spent their time gaming elsewhere during the downtime to return before they grow attached to another game.

Or they could go play all the awesome games that got released in the last 2 years. ( games that are not MMOs I mean)

[Buddhsie]

What I've found interesting about this downtime is that, if substantial, it gives players a time to get their "fix" elsewhere, and perhaps develop an attachment during said downtime there instead. Be it FFXI (imagine if the new expansion pack came out before ARR comes back online), another company's MMO, or even just offline games, not only will SE be trying to attract new players, but they'll have to work towards convincing those that have spent their time gaming elsewhere during the downtime to return before they grow attached to another game.

Interesting.. I would have thought that people experiencing other games during this time would make them look forward to FFXIV coming back even more.

[Randelmire]

Interesting.. I would have thought that people experiencing other games during this time would make them look forward to FFXIV coming back even more.

Actually, both theories are true, no matter what SE do, we all have different tastes.

[Doki]

Well I can think of another MMO that did a total revamp in order to "fix" the game... ask SWG how that worked out for them. I am a bit concerned that they may be changing things too much. I kind of like the way the combo system is now, with positioning important for each hit on many combos.