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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    They force segregation the game will fail, end of story. A lot of people like FFXIV, and by extension FFXI because you can play with people all over the world. I have played in multi-national linkshells all my FFXIV and FFXI career, and I love it, I have made a lot of friends in NA from these, and if I have the chance there are people I would like to meet across the pond.

    I paticularly have a friend from FFXI who lives in NA and she wants to play come PS3 release, if I cannot play with her come PS3 release I will quit, and I will no longer trust SE. You might say "well join a NA server then" so what do I do most of my free time when I am playing on a dead server?

    If they give us the choice I will join an international server (and hope there are enough who aren't xenophobes) FFXI worked well as an international MMO, so will FFXIV. A mix of international and regional servers can become a disaster for SE, if one of them is dead.

    Tell me who would quit right now if SE said "We are only having intentional servers".

    Now tell me who would quit right now if SE said "We are only having regional server".

    I bet the latter would get more attention.
    You can't speak for the majority, but yes I can see where you are coming from. It is a selling point.
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    Nobodys cares if you want to play with jps (which i'm 100% sure YOU WILL NEVER EVER PLAY WITH)

    We're getting WoW-Like bosses in 2.0, and these are NOT possible with a 300ms latency. I'd rather have these racists on their own planet than having to suffer from "why did you stand in the fire?" issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Even though you can very clearly hear Yoshida say DATA CENTER?
    WTF does DATA CENTER mean? Do I look like I have any clue? Really come on now lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Nobodys cares if you want to play with jps (which i'm 100% sure YOU WILL NEVER EVER PLAY WITH)

    We're getting WoW-Like bosses in 2.0, and these are NOT possible with a 300ms latency. I'd rather have these racists on their own planet than having to suffer from "why did you stand in the fire?" issues.
    No the fire issue is in direct correlation with people being nabs.
    ^Sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    343 Tokyo
    24 My city

    Wouldn't there still be a total of 343 ping regardless of where these mirror servers are? I just don't understand :P and I don't really care.
    You are going across a path some random IT guy at your ISP wants to Tokyo, this is quite often a slower link, and its a public link that slows everything down.

    If SE pools servers in Japan, EU and NA, you will be going through paths SE choose, which will be a lot faster, or if SE wants to you could be going across a leased line on SE's network just for FFXIV traffic which will speed everything up even more.

    What matters here is control of the links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    343 Tokyo
    24 My city

    Wouldn't there still be a total of 367 ping regardless of where these mirror servers are? I just don't understand :P and I don't really care.
    I'm guessing...

    ...*sigh* Nevermind...
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    You can't speak for the majority, but yes I can see where you are coming from. It is a selling point.
    Pretty much everyone enjoys the fact XI and XIV are universal servers if only for the fact there's no dead air at certain time periods like in other MMOs which are regional servers only, you clearly do not enjoy them being international servers yet you chose to play a Japanese MMORPG, which is fine.

    While yes Dataceters aren't "segregation", people are just showing concern even though it's just a mere connection booster rather than splitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Uhmmm let me clarify.
    Yoshi said they aren't changing the realms (balmung will stay balmung, masamune will stay masamune, etc).
    So if the realms will be the same, and your client will connect to a data server that's closest to you, it just means that your character will be handled by that server, but they all get pooled together. So nothing changes, just that you get no latency.
    Im just slightly confused. Say im connecting to the NS server, and playing from NA.
    Wouldn't the NA server still need to connect to the main server?
    And wouldnt that give us lag?
    Or is it going to be something in terms of ifrit's cracks being calculated by the NA server, and it only connecting to the main one to stay in synch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    WTF does DATA CENTER mean? Do I look like I have any clue? Really come on now lol.
    So you don't know what it means or what it entails at all, but you still feel the entitlement to comment on it as if your opinion is imperative?

    You say you have no idea what you're talking about, but you still think you should talk about it.

    My head is spinning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    No, I want a bottle of your product for free and then I'll be happy.
    Be careful, if you give me the chance I become rather addictive, unless u are elexia.

    A data center or computer centre (also datacenter) is a facility used to house computer systems and associated components, such as telecommunications and storage systems. It generally includes redundant or backup power supplies, redundant data communications connections, environmental controls (e.g., air conditioning, fire suppression) and security devices.

    That quote doesn't pertain to this conversation. Or rather, it doesn't really clarify anything.
    EDIT: If anything it would suggest that there will be segregated servers (with the option to pick which ever one you want)
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    Last edited by JackDaniels; 09-09-2012 at 12:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    Be careful, if you give me the chance I become rather addictive, unless u are elexia.

    A data center or computer centre (also datacenter) is a facility used to house computer systems and associated components, such as telecommunications and storage systems. It generally includes redundant or backup power supplies, redundant data communications connections, environmental controls (e.g., air conditioning, fire suppression) and security devices.

    That quote doesn't pertain to this conversation. Or rather, it doesn't really clarify anything.
    To put it simply, is a place where a large amount of information is stored. That can mean any data coming from the internet, data from offline, etc etc.

    When were talk about the internet, the data Center can link to another data center of course all data has a center point. ( Center point being Japan location of FFXIV Servers), but when you connect to say NA data center (server) which is closest to me. I can still play with the people of Japan because that data center is linked to the data center in Japan.

    That's how I understood Data Centers. Correct me if I'm wrong though, so I can understand it 100%.
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