Will you bother to PVP?

[Coyohma]

If you want a pure PvE, IMO you can play other MMOs.

Pretty reckless statement considering what game this is, but you could almost believe that's Yoshida's opinion as well when so many interviews unveil another gameplay aspect which has been changed to cater specifically to PvP. Movement while casting, directional combos, how TP works, etc - all will shape PvE, yet if you go by what they say, it's reasonable to think it would all be different if PvP didn't have the influence it does.

I think this is where most people who roll their eyes when it's brought up have an issue. It is compromising their PvE experience; you can argue vaguely that it isn't, but that flies in the face of what has clearly been stated.. really ad nauseam, that they are making gameplay decisions based on balancing PvP.

As people have noted in 1.0 there's a large gap between BLM and melee DPS. They're closing this gap by making melee more like BLM - BLM damage is front-loaded? Have melee start with TP. BLM don't have to bother with directional combos? Let's cut some of that difficulty out, even though we've "fixed" the latency issues that made it a headache at times.

Hell, BLM is still too easymode compared to melee DPS? Drop those pesky recast timers, that'll help right?

Personally I don't hate PvP, but I do hate when I feel it's at the expense of what I want most from FFXIV - varied and truly challenging/engaging PvE content. I don't get the feeling that they're sparing nothing to accomplish this. The image they're putting out there is that they're sparing nothing to reach their vision of what they want PvP to be.

[Darkillumina]

If I want to kill other online players I play battlefield. I dislike PVP in MMO's but if people want to do it I don't have a problem.

The only problem I have is if they start making gear that can only be obtained from PVP and is better than anything you can get in any dungeon which WoW did once upon a time when they released the arenas in 2006. (I could be wrong as this was a long time ago.)

Regardless, if you want to put PVP in this game it should NEVER impact the gaming balance of the PVE content. Have pvp specific zones/arenas/events but make sure to lock out the rewards gained from PVP unless they are strictly cosmetic.

[Tonkra]

If I want to kill other online players I play battlefield. I dislike PVP in MMO's but if people want to do it I don't have a problem.^

thats not really an argument.

and if you dont know how its going to work yet.. you cant really say that you will not like it.. so...

The only problem I have is if they start making gear that can only be obtained from PVP and is better than anything you can get in any dungeon which WoW did once upon a time when they released the arenas in 2006. (I could be wrong as this was a long time ago.)

Regardless, if you want to put PVP in this game it should NEVER impact the gaming balance of the PVE content. Have pvp specific zones/arenas/events but make sure to lock out the rewards gained from PVP unless they are strictly cosmetic.

well one problem can be that the classes will balanced regarding to overpowered skills in pvp or something.. who knows.

hopefully not.

[vax]

I hate PVP so, i won't play it.

[Akujin]

They're reworking a lot of the stuff in the game for pvp, like the way they changed TP for example to be at 3000 at the start of a battle. It makes me wonder how much other consideration will be put into pvp when it comes to loot and stuff, and I wonder if it's really worth all the effort.

Its not, you should just go ahead and cancel everything now and save yourself the headache and eventual disappointment later..






please?


As for a real answer to the thread - PvP has never been a big priority for the SE brand, though XI did Ballista and it was fun, the couple of times I did it. I'm interested in seeing what YoshiP has created for the PvP arena, the massive castle seige like environments. I seriously doubt he'll do anything that drives the majority of focus from PvE to PvP, since storyline and epic monsters is what FF is more known for, not so much bludgeoning your fellow man. But, as he is wanting to create an MMO that can cater to all sorts of people, naturally he'll need to cater to those who favor a PvP environment as well. I'm looking forward to seeing how its been designed, not to say it'll be a high priority for me, something I'll check out sure.

[Allcars]

I love pvp, I love how it is different every time, having to out play your enemy is a thrill!

That feeling when you bump into someone who you are about to throw down with, the tingle in your finger tips the increased hear rate. The next actions each of your do will determine who will win.

I don't mind losing, as long as I learn from my mistake. I hate losing when there is just a big zerg of people and you die before you know what happened.

[Felis]

When enough melees cry about how fast they get comboed to death by a black mage. They'll ask for a nerf to Thundara combo and they'll do it if enough people complain, and then black mage would be shit in PvE cause they got gimped.

It's happened in alot more MMOs than FFXI.

Only in 1v1 PvP. And only if the melee don't have lightning resist materia in his gear. What he maybe should if he enter the Pvp area. And instead to ask for a Thundara nerf they could ask for a lightning resist materia boost. Or just reduce magic damage in PvP area to 50% (like in Ragnarok online during WoE). Then the mage would only be nerfed for PvP and not PvE.

you don't know what your on about. nobody manually enter's skills when you can sting Multiple skills together and activate them quicker. its a very serious issue in many PvP MMO's and leads to an unfair advantage those that dont setup macro's will loose a good percentage of the time.

And again, this would be only in a 1v1 Pvp. But I'm sure Yoshi said in an interview he planned group PvP for arena and frontline.

[Tabula]

Its not, you should just go ahead and cancel everything now and save yourself the headache and eventual disappointment later.

Pretty sure he was referring to it not being worth the effort for the devs to spend all this time on PVP when the people who want PVP are the minority.

[Akujin]

Pretty sure he was referring to it not being worth the effort for the devs to spend all this time on PVP when the people who want PVP are the minority.

Eitherway, my suggestion stands.

[Tabula]

Eitherway, my suggestion stands.

"Eitherway" isn't a word. It's actually "either way."