Seems like alot of people want this game to become Free 2 Play. >.>

[Tonkra]

GW2 is f2p and getting good reviews. just means a company will find a way to make the money in another way~

@GW2
well it having good reviews i personally had not that much fun.

crappy standard story lore. crappy animations and graphics... no real group play.. well no... i stay with FF14 2.0. and play the FF universe and have real content that pushes group play... reviews are not all.
your own taste and preferations are most important for a MMO




@ F2P MMorpgs


My personally opinion is, that MMorpgs who turn f2p gave up being a game which is worth to pay for. i personally think that games still can be worth to pay for a monthly fee.

F2p games attracks an other clientele, which already dont want to pay any cent for a game just to play it. And its just my opinion... but for me games like AION, Lord of the Rings, AoC etc. are not enough "attractive" anymore even to play it in f2p status.

i imply less quality with f2p, i never played a f2p for long time.
and we see that even F2P's turn nowdays offline after an other (CityOfHeroes etc.) so not even f2p is a guarantee for a game to be alive forever. its the last chance for a game after the subscribers drop in a p2p model.


Games who gave up being worth to pay for.

and i have no problem to pay for -one- active MMO if that means that we get frequently patches, that i can play EVERY content without any restrictions, or having disadvantages against other players and having good customer support. that is not what i call fun. and seriously i pay 16 euro a month for my fitness studio although im not going there every day.. so i can pay 9,99 euro a month.. for a game which i can quit every month and where i think its worth to pay for. i have more fun with p2p MMO's than any other offline game. thats a fact.

[Ingolf]

@GW2
well it having good reviews i personally had not that much fun.

crappy standard story lore. crappy animations and graphics... no real group play.. well no... i stay with FF14 2.0. and play the FF universe and have real content that pushes group play... reviews are not all.
your own taste and preferations are most important for a MMO

Let's see.

1. Crappy standard lore

What exactly makes it crappy? What exactly makes it standard? Do you actually know the lore of the Guild Wars universe? I don't claim to be an aficionado, but the lore and storyline are far from generic or standard. In fact a lot of people love the lore and universe.

2. Crappy animations

Oh really? What exactly makes them crappy? Would you prefer the animation lock of XIV or the floatyness that has been apparent in every 2.0 trailer? Maybe you want some ragdoll physics?

3. No real group play

Good luck in dungeons. Let's see how you solo that. Heaven forbid that we can actually help anyone out on the field and get rewarded for it. Why has making parties become the hallmark? Why not be able to help anyone anywhere? You need a party to get the more difficult content done.

And yeah, I love how group play is so important. Shouting for an event that you need a piece of gear from is really fun. I love that.

[Tonkra]

Let's see.

1. Crappy standard lore

What exactly makes it crappy? What exactly makes it standard? Do you actually know the lore of the Guild Wars universe? I don't claim to be an aficionado, but the lore and storyline are far from generic or standard. In fact a lot of people love the lore and universe.

Well it was something like "rescuing" the white deer (sylvari storyline), which was not that kind of special stories which we are used to get in a Final Fantasy. thats western standard to me. no?

the storyline which we experience now in the end is much more epic to me. some call it maybe kitchy.. i call it epic.

2. Crappy animations

Oh really? What exactly makes them crappy? Would you prefer the animation lock of XIV or the floatyness that has been apparent in every 2.0 trailer? Maybe you want some ragdoll physics?

well the animations are just awful and unfluent. while in Final Fantasy the animations looking from time to time just really realistic... like it was made with motion capturing.. the animations in GW2 look just so not fluent.. and ugly.. like the spell effects, which are some kind of a joke compared to the trailers before.

the "geyser" looks just like a very very small water fontain etc.. compare the standard attacks from GW witht he WS that of a Monk or dragoon. there are just WORLDS in between, WORLDS. even in 2.0.

and on the other side i think you really cant compare it.. GW2 just has a complete different art style which goes more into the stylized direction.

3. No real group play

Good luck in dungeons. Let's see how you solo that. Heaven forbid that we can actually help anyone out on the field and get rewarded for it. Why has making parties become the hallmark? Why not be able to help anyone anywhere? You need a party to get the more difficult content done.

And yeah, I love how group play is so important. Shouting for an event that you need a piece of gear from is really fun. I love that.

oh come on.. you cant be serious... do you mean thousand of anonymous groups in GW2 when playing public quests like in warhammer or rift? (which wasnt any new to me by the way, because of playing WAR etc.)

and dungeons in GW2 are more endgame content than low and mid level content.. while in FF you played in a group almost from the beginning on. which i havent seen for long time in the MMorpg genre where you almost grinded through solo quests.

well we'll have to see how 2.0. is going to be. but it promises also group quests and leveling through content like low level dungeon instances.


i dont say that you cant have fun in GW2. go ahead.. but dont say that i should have fun with it, too because the reviews are so "good".. no, its not my kind of game after playing the betas... seriously. its just a media hype for me.