I wouldn't mind FFXIV becoming a WoW clone in the casual/hardcore appeal if...

[Isaveron]

SE never said that. SE said FFXI was made during the "EQ Age". I love how ppl always put their own shit into a simple sentence from an interview. And like Kiote allready said.. EQ was far aways from being similiar to FFXI.

BM: Final Fantasy XI just had its ten year anniversary and it got a new expansion coming up. You talked about educating the development team at what the standard is at a west MMOs, so with an eye of Final Fantasy XI that is hugely successful, what did they get right what Final Fantasy XIV wasn’t doing?

Yoshida: One of the reasons why Final Fantasy XI was so successful was that the whole development team went and played Everquest and they thought “Okay, we want to do exactly what they did with Final Fantasy XI!” You know there were times where you couldn’t contact any of them because of how much they played *laughs*, but because they did that they had a direction. One of the problems with Final Fantasy XIV was that there wasn’t that direction, they didn’t know what the standard was and they never played World of Warcraft, they didn’t know enough and because they didn’t know enough they couldn’t build something up to the standards of current MMOs. Plus when they started creating Final Fantasy XI there was Final Fantasy X that strongly influenced them.

Looks pretty clear to me.

[Kiote]

Well, I did make one mistake. EQ and FFXI we're both good enough games to have implemented Competitive Community HNMs with long Spawns. XI just made the mistake of using Windows which forces Camping =/

[Kiote]

Looks pretty clear to me.

Just because they got inspired by the First Succesful MMO ever, doesn't mean they copied it.

If FFXI was an EQ clone they would Share the same UI, Combat, Character Development, ect. ect.

WoW actually stole more from EQ than FFXI did. They just took out the difficulty.

[Nero]

Looks pretty clear to me.

There is not a single sentence which says "SE: we used Everquest as a template for FFXI."

They said they want a successfull MMO, nothing more nothing less. They never said... again... they never said "SE: we used Everquest as a template for FFXI.".

Yeah, looks pretty clear to me that they didnt say it. They are speaking not of "Ingame Content", they are not speaking of making a similiar "UI". They played Everquest, like myself and they liked the game. They wanted to create a game with an own story, with an unique storyline, with unique systems and so on.

[Velhart]

Typical FFXIV community taking one word completely out of context. Perhaps I should of used the words "inspired"? If you have played both Everquest 1 and FFXI, you would know the similarities are most definitely there. Is it a carbon copy? No, because even then FFXI had the technology to do things Everquest could not. Saying FFXI had no concepts at all from Everquest is a pretty ignorant statement.

Also to the ragers who decided to bring this up. Did you in any way, shape, or form get the message I was trying to give? Or did you look at that one paragraph and decided to completely forget the meaning of that post?

[Nero]

Typical FFXIV community taking one word completely out of context. Perhaps I should of used the words "inspired"?

Its not taking out of context, its you saying "SE admitted they used EQ as template", which is totally different to "inspired". yeah.. SE got inspired like a lot of companies, but they made their "own thing" out of it.

If you have played both Everquest 1 and FFXI, you would know the similarities are most definitely there. Is it a carbon copy? No, because even then FFXI had the technology to do things Everquest could not. Saying FFXI had no concepts at all from Everquest is a pretty ignorant statement.

I played both, so what? Kiote asked you to state where EQ and FFXI are similiar, i also waiting for that. If you cant prove it, you should realize that you are wrong in that point. most MMO's have some sort of similiar stuff, which isnt avoidable. You fight mobs, you fight bosses, you have raids/instances, PvP etc etc, but that doesnt make it a "copy".

Also to the ragers who decided to bring this up. Did you in any way, shape, or form get the message I was trying to give? Or did you look at that one paragraph and decided to completely forget the meaning of that post?

I never raged, so dont mix me with 99% of the forum-crowd. i was reading the rest and if i wouldnt agree to it, i would have said it.

[XxOstiaxX]

You know when you at first claim:

"FFXI was nothing like EQ! FFXI was the most original MMO EVAH!"

And then proceed to utter:

"Well wow stole more from EQ than XI ever Did"

You should stop posting.

[XxOstiaxX]

Oh and yes XI was based on EQ. Please do tell me how it was not I need giggles today.

[Kallera]

Oh and yes XI was based on EQ. Please do tell me how it was not I need giggles today.

EQ had fall damage and the freedom to attack the city populace, do I win the thread?

Why does this thread have to devolve into a sordid mess complaining about which original game is more difficult. Which gamer suffered more for his fun?

There isnt a game on the market that doesn't borrow inspiration from other games. Its the application of said inspiration that matters

[XxOstiaxX]

No you dont win the thread, but you do get a Cookie!!

Also i don't know why people get their panties up in a bunch, was XI based on EQ ? Yes! Is that bad ? No!

But i guess there are always fanboys that wanna make XI more than what it was.... O well