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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You start with full tp, those WS CDs were pretty low in that vid. also 5 weapon sills in 20 seconds says hello.
    why not? BLM has very low CD on some spells if not most so why not on WS also?
    + u havent yet played beta alpha or even the game yet so stop making useless posts about that the game will suck or not sit.

    edit: and dont forget hate so DRG,WAR,MNK,BRD wont hit 12454321 constantly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achtzen View Post
    I think we still start off at 0% tp, it just doesn't degenerate as it currently does so we can use it for later.
    We can't have that though, that's FFXI~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raubahn View Post
    why not? BLM has very low CD on some spells if not most so why not on WS also?
    + u havent yet played beta alpha or even the game yet so stop making useless posts about that the game will suck or not sit.
    ya, you know what blm is? You cast the same spells over and over again 12, 12, 12, 123, 12, 123. And use some side abilities. I mean, what do youeven use on ifrit as blm!?! Blah, at least before thm had Dots and all this other cool stuff you could use.


    Edit: Umm if mobs die in 20seconds, there is no point for hate. SPAM AOE!!!!
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    Last edited by Rokien; 08-17-2012 at 09:49 AM.

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    If brains had an anus, Rokien topics would be the result.
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    Yeah.. aren't cooldowns and weapon delay already a form of stamina use because it takes a second to swing a heavy axe repeatedly or recover from casting a spell, so technically the system is already there. And from what I recall a grand majority of folks hated the original stamina system that required you to relay every action, why would you want to see the return of the olden days it takes a level 50 five minutes to kill a level 2 coblyn.
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    Last edited by SwordCoheir; 08-17-2012 at 09:55 AM.

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    The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

    1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
    2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

    Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.
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    People disliked stamina because it was another limit on top of an already heavily restricted, broken and unresponsive combat system. It had nothing to do with the fact that it was a regenerating resource mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

    1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
    2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

    Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.
    I think this is spot on.

    And I also think that it's too early to say we'll be spamming like the stamina days. Limit Breaks may call for more strategy than "just zerg out your TP."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

    1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
    2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

    Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.
    I would think a manual attack/stamina(doesn't go down with ws) with this new tp system would be pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I would think a manual attack/stamina(doesn't go down with ws) with this new tp system would be pretty awesome.
    Rokien liking something is a good litmus test for that something being s**tty.
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