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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twentytwo View Post
    We do not use or encourage bot use, the bot craze in 11 happened -after- we moved to WoW. The question on the app is referring to parsers/fraps/xsplit etc. Discussion over.
    I think the problem here is guilt by association. Sorry man, you're not gonna get out from under the bus that easily. It certainly is open season in this thread, I'll let you guess who the hunted is.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 08-09-2012 at 01:41 AM.

  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twentytwo View Post
    We do not use or encourage bot use, the bot craze in 11 happened -after- we moved to WoW. The question on the app is referring to parsers/fraps/xsplit etc. Discussion over.
    Discussion over?

    In a public forum, not to mention the "General Discussion" section?

    Wise posting decision.
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    Last edited by Laughlyn; 08-09-2012 at 01:50 AM.

    I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...

  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twentytwo View Post
    We do not use or encourage bot use, the bot craze in 11 happened -after- we moved to WoW. The question on the app is referring to parsers/fraps/xsplit etc. Discussion over.

    We also do not run, or have anything to do w/ any 11 bot discussion that may or may not happen on bluegarter.com We have been separated from them as a guild for years now and use our own site.
    LIES YOU DUPES DARKLIGHTS :|
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  4. #224
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    So what went wrong here?

    1. Semi-infalmitory 'about us' page
    2. Same name as an XI LS known for botting (guilt by association)
    3. posting a recruiting thread in general chat (on a forum filled with trolls waiting to pounce)
    4. publicly viewable applications
    5. tendency to rub wins/firsts/etc in people's faces


    I think the saying "You'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" applies here.

    imo, this is a lesson in what not to do when recruiting.
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I think the problem here is guilt by association. Sorry man, you're not gonna get out from under the bus that easily. It certainly is open season in this thread, I'll let you guess who the hunted is.
    You're right, it won't be that easy, but it was a completly different linkshell with different members that botted, and many years ago, that does not represent us. People will continue to troll, but I'm making a statement for our XIV LS that is 100% accurate.
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  6. #226
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    I think the problem here is guilt by association. Sorry man, you're not gonna get out from under the bus that easily. It certainly is open season in this thread, I'll let you guess who the hunted is.
    Guilt by association of what? A website? A popular gaming website in which a multitude of things are discussed? Hardly. As was mentioned before, if you want to call the 2012 New England Patriots "cheaters" for what they did in 2001, then I can't stop you. If you want to scream and shout and accuse and browbeat us or anyone in this thread over it, I can't stop you.

    All we can do is simply point out what the truth is. We don't condone botting or hacking or whatever you want to call it. We can control what other people do in this game about as well as you or anyone else can. Which is to say we can't.

    Again, we are not affiliated with www.bluegartr.com, and that is a website that transcends any one linkshell or guild for that matter. You can say you want to associate us with them all you want. Doesn't make it any less false.

    Fact of the matter is, we are as strong as ever. We have a plethora of great applications over the last few days and we are going to be in great shape headed into 2.0. We appreciate all of the interest that's been shown and it really flatters us that so many would find something as simple as a guild name incite this much discussion.
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    Last edited by AshTS; 08-09-2012 at 02:03 AM.
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  7. #227
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    On another note

    Just wanted to thank everyone for the apps they've submitted so far. We'll be in contact soon and set something up in game, or to hang out on vent. Keep them coming we'll enjoy meeting all the interested people.
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    http://www.bluegarterls.com/home-mainmenu-1/topic?id=8

    Totally innocent guys... please try harder..
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twentytwo View Post
    You're right, it won't be that easy, but it was a completly different linkshell with different members that botted, and many years ago, that does not represent us. People will continue to troll, but I'm making a statement for our XIV LS that is 100% accurate.
    It's gonna be an uphill battle I'm afraid. As an LS leader myself, I feel for you. Especially since you're obviously looking for members. Correcting what you can out of the things I listed would be a good start. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    It's gonna be an uphill battle I'm afraid. As an LS leader myself, I feel for you. Especially since you're obviously looking for members. Correcting what you can out of the things I listed would be a good start. Good luck.
    Thanks, we will be making some changes, we were unaware that people could be offended by the About Us page. "Phrasing!" as Archer would say.
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