Order of the Blue Garter: Open Recruitment Season

[Deceptistar]

BG is entitled to whatever rules they put forward. They are one of the best LSs in the game, one of which that is generous enough to share their strategies so others are in liberty to follow (and most do to the letter). Even tools such as parser are shared and used by all servers.

Most of their members are polite and helpful (Zozor, Twenty) and as for posting in general forums, will, if you are not convinced of their reasoning, who gives a @#$#? We have ppl that spams forums with all sorts of nonsense with a sense of entitlement its sickening (just look at first page).

I dont think people have any trouble with BG, as they are a well respected group, they also have their enemies too (like any other high LS) Its most likely the fact that they put the recruit in general section instead of the server specific threads thats caused all this ruckus.

You cant say that everyone that doesnt praise them on this thread is butthurt and that jealousy is causing it. Thats just ridiculous delusions of grandeur and unfair to even neutral posters too. Its more of an unsaid/unstated consideration that other endgame LSs kept, even tho im pretty much sure all of them would have liked to recruit cross-server for exceptional members the coming 2.0, that kept them from posting smack in the general section. I mean hey, it could have been posted half jokingly, but to be fair, there would be no end to it if all the endgame oriented LSs decided to post their recruit in general section for cross server advertisement. Most people already know BG in FFXIV as an exceptional LS, they provide the community with alot of useful information even tho they are not obligated to. But as wonderful as they are, there are just some borderline things that the community appreciates. Its pretty much same as RL things. There is a borderline that every nice, good, exceptional person can do, but if they cross it, it gets ugly.

[Yucie]

I have my E:Body and HNM gear ty :P

cool story bro

[Churchill]

d2 me after claim guys, good night!

[fusional]

"Order of The Blue Garter XIV was founded in October 2010 by the merging of two like-minded groups of players. Most notably are the members of the original FFXI/WoW OrderofTheBlueGartr from Bahamut and Azshara. We have members ranging from a multitude of FFXI linkshells including Machina, Apathy, Spike Flail, Excellence, and LimitBreak."

*eyeroll* yea were totally not affiliated with the notorious add-on using LS from Bahamut...

hi! i'm not sure how this keeps popping up since it keeps getting answered, but:

Our LS was founded by old-school members of BG from back in the XI days, along with some BG-WoW dudes, and fresh blood from Rabanastre/Durandal.

We had a good amount of OG BG members at FFXIV release that went to WoW with us from 11 and then came to 14 from WoW, we kept the name because the leader of OG BG also came with us and we more than had the right to, considering it was us that formed the LS in 11. The neobg forums are called neobg because they're maintained by new members of BG, not the original ones that went to WoW after we were done with 11.

The Bulls, or any team still call them selves The Bulls, despite people quitting, being traded, or retiring etc. Same concept.

page 10. hope this clears up any confusion... again. cheers!

[Yucie]

The Bulls, or any team still call them selves The Bulls, despite people quitting, being traded, or retiring etc. Same concept.

Precisely. Despite whatever members your LS is comprised of now, you're still called BG - and with that, you still carry whatever reputation and feelings people have towards you, ill or otherwise.
So, plenty of people will still hate your LS, until they see otherwise.

And, as previously stated, the 'About us' page is just asking for the hurt.

[Twentytwo]

*eyeroll* yea were totally not affiliated with the notorious add-on using LS from Bahamut...

If you'd like to check out our FFXI videos, you'll surely see me in just about all of them. Sorry you thought otherwise.

[Churchill]

I think rather that comment is directed that yes, you are in fact the same LS and you are the same dirty cheaters.

[carraway]

A few times, people have brought up the notion of gear or experience as prerequisites for breaking into the endgame. This plays into how you can show that you're hungry for it.

Regarding gear:

The kinds of gearsets you put together for your character show how much you care independent of your actual level of endgame experience. If you do not have access to Darklight, you can still put together some sick sets. Double-melds are not very punishing unless you're looking at some of the highly desired materia for the relic quest (Savage Might, Heaven's Eye), and even then you can use high tier 3s to try to get as close as possible. As time goes on, a lot of gear depth has been added -- Giantsgall, Coliseum, GC lt. weapons and officer gear, craftables from Castrum Novum, etc. There's a huge difference between someone who just wears whatever s/he found on their retainer versus someone who cares enough about what s/he is wearing to try to make intelligent choices.

We have always been very realistic when looking at applicants and where they're coming from. As the original post states, we're willing to invest in players who demonstrate a lot of potential. Although it's far easier for someone to make the transition if s/he has as much experience as us (or close to it), it is not a prerequisite.

As for experience:

We think that even if someone isn't in a linkshell that's actively pursuing endgame content, there are still ways to try to see the content. The two methods I've used in this game and in other games are pick-up groups and networking with friends in other linkshells to form groups. Pick-up groups are understandably stigmatized by many players, but for people who can be assertive, it is possible to wrangle people into success. Networking requires a little more of a selfstarter attitude, but good players can be found across swathes of different linkshells. In fact, networking is how I got into BG in the first place, way back in October/November 2010. I was grinding on raptors with 22, Mav, and a few others. They thought I was a raging asshole because I kept on preemptively pulling the next raptor and arriving back at the party with 1/3 of my HP left.

For those of you who feel trapped where you're at, I suggest trying to take some initiative. Send out some feelers to friends whom you trust, make posts about static groups; see if you can find other hungry players.

[Churchill]

I think rather that comment is directed that yes, you are in fact the same LS and you are the same dirty cheaters.

I think the [+] this comment received missed out on the fact that I am making fun of the people who would [+] on this attitude and not really directing malice towards 3p app users in XI.

[Madruk]

Still find it amazing after a decade you still have to rely on a windower in FFXI for basic features.