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  1. #101
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    Kyri's Avatar
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    Kyri Sagitta
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    I miss those classes as well (though in xi rdm kinda took over the spot of the little brother you don't want tagging around) but what i really miss and the reason im playing XI again and not XIV is things like dynamis, trial weapons, easier relics and most of all, PET CLASSES. The new summon system were going to have is a huge disappointment to be and this game seriously needs some pet class love.

    Back to rocking socks with my beastmaster
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

  2. #102
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onisake View Post
    I don't really think that was against the intent. in traditional FF games where i had a DRK I used them primarily as physical attackers. They had elemental magic making them more versatile, but they never out nuked my RDMs or BLMs. so the only time I did use elemental magic on a drk was when physical attacks were not effective.
    What I'm talking about is the fact that DRK and RDM, as per previous final fantasy games, got carbon copies of spells black mage would get. The problem with that is that those spell slots were entirely wasted in the case of DRK because of casting times, low damage, and low tier spell access. So DRK has 18 wasted spell slots that are there for nothing other than to take up space because casting = lost swing time on auto attacks, loss of DPS because of the lower damage and wasted MP to boot.

    My take on correcting this is focusing on application relevant to the job in question. A black mage would obviously use Fire for purely destructive ends. A dark knight might use Fire to weaken their enemy with hopes that it would help their next attack do more damage. A red mage might use Fire in conjunction with melee strikes or weapon skills (possibly even as a "finisher" in a combo). All three would require variations of the same spell to meet each job's needs; a big super nuke for BLM, an instant-cast debuff for DRK, and a short/instant cast spell that can be weaved in between melee strikes for RDM.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 07-24-2012 at 07:48 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  3. #103
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    Rannie Lfey
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    ehhhh drk didn't get any spells to use in ffiv the most you had was soul eater and and darkness. The only time dark got spells to use which was in 3 and that was actually white magic spells

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Knight

    this is the true history of dark knight it wasn't until 11 that they got low level elemental type magic

    I myself wouldn't mind seeing more of a dark that's a mixture from all of it minus the ability to use spells to give one's soul truly over to darkness and evil

    now I want to play IV again... dang it
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    Last edited by Rannie; 07-24-2012 at 08:25 AM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    I think they need to play FFT and just go from there....
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  5. #105
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    Lin Celistine
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    They implement Red Mage, the way it should. I'll bring Hyrist of Midgardsormr into Eorza.

    If not, then I won't.

    Plenty of things this game needs, liking some of the ones I'm seeing mentioned here. Not liking some of the others. (Open world PvP only in designated PvP zones. I don't want it impacting my day to day game, thanks.)

    I've a suggestion of my own when it comes to something this game really should have, but I'm still debating on whether or not it deserves it's own thread. It's kinda specific, but kinda not. More like an area concept. Something I haven't seen done in any of my MMORPGs except maybe SWTOR - but it IS something that has been done in a Single Player Final Fantasy Game one more than one occasion.
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  6. #106
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    Griss Stilgar
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    I have solved the riddle. I know what will save this game


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    An Aware, Informed, and Critical community is vital for the success of a game.
    ~ John "Totalbiscuit" Bain

  7. #107
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    Isis Myrlin
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxOstiaxX View Post
    I think they need to play FFT and just go from there....
    We seldom agree you and I but

    HELL YES!!!!!!!!
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  8. #108
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Are they blueberry muffins griss? If not I don't accept that as the answer to the riddle!
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  9. #109
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    SwordCoheir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    I have solved the riddle. I know what will save this game


    Muffin button
    Oooo Muffin Button!
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    Support RDM Development: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/42776-How-Would-You-Design-Red-Mage%21[/center]

  10. #110
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    I've a suggestion of my own when it comes to something this game really should have, but I'm still debating on whether or not it deserves it's own thread. It's kinda specific, but kinda not. More like an area concept. Something I haven't seen done in any of my MMORPGs except maybe SWTOR - but it IS something that has been done in a Single Player Final Fantasy Game one more than one occasion.
    Might as well just go for it. Even if it's a bit narrow, it will be more relevant (to itself; how could it not be?) that when appended to another thread. At worse a self-styled forum mod without moderator powers will be mad at you.

    I'd certainly read it.
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