Letter from the Producer, XXXII (07/23/2012)

[Elexia]

I think yoshi-p said they want to keep china away from the rest of us due to the RMT issue not sure if they change there mind or not.

Even though RMT is actually US based which merely use chinese as the farmers...they should keep the US away from everyone else too. Given regulations on chinese game development, they will most likely have a separate server setup as well as version because for example you can't display undead or certain types of death in China.

[neorei]

Even though RMT is actually US based which merely use chinese as the farmers...they should keep the US away from everyone else too. Given regulations on chinese game development, they will most likely have a separate server setup as well as version because for example you can't display undead or certain types of death in China.

oh this is true, chinese will not allow undead to be shown, reason why wrath of the lich king took so long to come out in china.

[Elexia]

A few BS RMT companies do not equal China as a whole, please stuff your Xenophobia in someone else's face.

I'm Xenophobic? The Fuck? Last I checked:

Even though RMT is actually US based which merely use chinese as the farmers...they should keep the US away from everyone else too. Given regulations on chinese game development, they will most likely have a separate server setup as well as version because for example you can't display undead or certain types of death in China.

I'm pretty sure I know that RMT isn't everyone in China, especially considering I play Chinese MMOs and know quite a lot of Chinese players who wanted to play XI but never could because of the bad seeds.

So yeah, take your ignorant Xenophobic accusations elsewhere.

[Hyrist]

So yeah, take your ignorant Xenophobic accusations elsewhere.

Kay. I'll own that.

So what's your effing beef about me calling out FFXI's mistake in not tapping China's base then?

You seem to be blindly championing the game left and right when, honestly, it could have benefited from the deal. Heck, Chinese servers might have taken some of the heat off of the main servers, in terms of RMT assaults, we'll never know.

[Elexia]

Kay. I'll own that.

So what's your effing beef about me calling out FFXI's mistake in not tapping China's base then?.

There is no beef about it, I'm stating exactly why they didn't initially go after it. No company will do business with people who are purposefully trying to hurt it. This is why now it makes a lot of sense they're trying to tap into the market now that all of the issues are settled and they can work with a company to make it happen.

During the days when the chinese were DDoSing and mass hacking..honestly, it's not even "championing", it's common sense. They weren't DDoSing and hacking because it wasn't supported in China, they were doing it for money and "revenge" due to politics.

2005-2008 was then, 2012+ is now. There are legitimate reasons why they didn't initially try to support China and even had to go so far as to block their access that the legit importers had to jump through hoops to continue to play the game.

They would have had to make separate servers for them as well regardless of hacks or not, but you can't really think SE would have jumped at the chance to support them while that was the source of a lot of problems that ultimately caused SE to adapt the Token system.

I know people love to give SE flack for things, but they're still a business and have some sense of business politics lol.

[Hyrist]

There is no beef about it, I'm stating exactly why they didn't initially go after it. No company will do business with people who are purposefully trying to hurt it. This is why now it makes a lot of sense they're trying to tap into the market now that all of the issues are settled and they can work with a company to make it happen.

During the days when the chinese were DDoSing and mass hacking..honestly, it's not even "championing", it's common sense. They weren't DDoSing and hacking because it wasn't supported in China, they were doing it for money and "revenge" due to politics.

2005-2008 was then, 2012+ is now. There are legitimate reasons why they didn't initially try to support China and even had to go so far as to block their access that the legit importers had to jump through hoops to continue to play the game.

They would have had to make separate servers for them as well regardless of hacks or not, but you can't really think SE would have jumped at the chance to support them while that was the source of a lot of problems that ultimately caused SE to adapt the Token system.

Ok, let's get into specifics. I've no time to look it up, but wasn't Blizzard, in the same year spans in question, working with and setting up WoW Servers in China, when suffering form nearly identical issues?

It just feels like SE generalized due to the political climate, and suffered a huge loss with profit opportunity while doing so, regardless of other issues at the time.

Again, I'm not exact on my start date for WoW China servers, but the dealing at the very least had to be in the works during the issues with Chinese RMT and DDoS attacks - as Blizzard also adapted Security Tokens within the same 2 year span.

[Jynx]

You seem to be blindly championing the game left and right when, honestly, it could have benefited from the deal.

I think the largest issue for companies is that China has special rules they need to put into place litteraly making it a different game from what most players get.

It's not like they just pop up a "China server" they have to actually rework alot of the game. No mentions of Nukes, No skeletons (dunno why) Restrictions on playtime, and needs to be able to get through the great firewall. SE will pretty much give the chinese company a copy of FFXIV and let them have at it until it's ready for government aproval. SE will have very little input for the game from that point on. Expansions and whatnot will also go through a "Filter" when released.

It's more trouble than it's worth for some companies.