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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    Alright, I'm honestly getting sick of the "it's against the law/unsupported by the law" excuses that keep getting thrown around.



    FYI: Unrecognized =/= against the law. Simply put they just don't view your certificate of marriage as legal. Meaning there is no rules against it showing up in the game.

    I love you

    btw i had read that previous but got so tired of the "legal" arguments over it that I didn't post the link but this is where Kyuuen got that quote

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Japan#Marriage

    which will link you to this article as well

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Japan
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    Last edited by Rannie; 07-15-2012 at 06:43 AM. Reason: added more direct links
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    same sex marriage?

    will this allow same sex marriage? played ffxi for years with my partner and always thought it was odd that same sex marriage was not an option.

    Hope XIV reflects all of its player base this time round
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    I really want the wedding to come back. i want to marry and make a baby miquote lol hahahahah
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  4. #274
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    I don't really care for gay-marriage IRL (or in-game), leave it out of Final Fantasy. I respect people life-styles but I respect traditional man & woman marriages more. Just like no hints of polygamy or human trafficking(maybe references to slavery).

    We know it exist IRL: Just like (we don't want to see) corporates buying-out our national parks, landmarks to build roads and new condos for an excuse for local strip-clubs, we just don't want to see that in-game. People just need to differentiate personal taste and respect what is the norm.
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    Last edited by PSxpert2011; 07-16-2012 at 10:04 PM.


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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    I don't really care for gay-marriage IRL (or in-game), leave it out of Final Fantasy. I respect people life-styles but I respect traditional man & woman marriages more. Just like no hints of polygamy or human trafficking(maybe references to slavery).

    We know it exist IRL: Just like (we don't want to see) corporates buying-out our national parks, landmarks to build roads and new condos for an excuse for local strip-clubs, we just don't want to see that in-game. People just need to differentiate personal taste and respect what is the norm.
    You're comparing strip-clubs and greedy corporations to a basic human rights issue, which has absolutely nothing to do with preferences, nor is it a life-style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    I don't really care for gay-marriage IRL (or in-game), leave it out of Final Fantasy. I respect people life-styles but I respect traditional man & woman marriages more. Just like no hints of polygamy or human trafficking(maybe references to slavery).

    We know it exist IRL: Just like (we don't want to see) corporates buying-out our national parks, landmarks to build roads and new condos for an excuse for local strip-clubs, we just don't want to see that in-game. People just need to differentiate personal taste and respect what is the norm.
    Wow... just wow. It's a game man. You aren't 'respecting' anything. Also, equating gay marriage with the examples you provide is just wrong and you are trying to stir up Hate. Gay marriage, in game or in real life is not the evil, morally corrupt issue you are pointing out. Not allowing them to marry who the LOVE is morally wrong. Also, there are married man-woman couples in RL who are more depraved and corrupt and evil than any loving gay couple. I am straight and happily married myself, but the extreme hate-filled view you have is unfair and very wrong.

    As to the in-game reasons/support:

    You must not know this, but my NPC buddy is female...and she hits on my female lalafell ALL the time. I mean she's like very specific and graphic....this would technically be a girl-girl storyline SE created that I have NO SAY in. I had no idea when I picked a female NPC buddy, she'd be hitting on me non-stop...I did it because I liked how she looked (btw I don't mind her comeons, I just think it's funny).

    Again, the CUL storyline revolves around transgender...in the style of Shakespeare's 12th Night.

    The Miners guild is basically a strip club (has nothing to do with gay relationships...but as you seem opposed to them as well thought I'd point out in game).

    There are several storylines involving gambling.

    Also, the MOST PERVERTED dialog in game atm is derogatory to Women. MRD/WAR quest is filled with it. I mean, it is borderline 'wth SE??!!' lude. No one seems to complain when girls are mis-treated like this in game...why? Because a male pirate on a boat might actually be a lude, demeaning man. It's part of playing the character.

    Also, keep in mind, many couples in RL play this game as girl-girl or guy-guy. Why can you not understand that they would want to be joined in game? They aren't gay...they just are playing the character type they most liked. Why punish them? Are you against Lala's marrying Elzen too?

    At the end of the day, you ARE playing a game in Real-time with real people. from the changing world. And like in the real world, the marriage of Ted and Steve will have very little if any effect on your personal life...no more than other marriages that were seen as 'taboo' in the past. (inter-racial, cross-economic, cross-religion etc.) I know this little post won't be enough for you to go, 'hey maybe I could be more open-minded' but stop hiding behind your hate. If you wanna treat others as lesser than you, that's fine, but realize we are ALL equal...regardless of how much money we have, who we love, who we worship, where we go to school....
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Wow... just wow. It's a game man. You aren't 'respecting' anything. Also, equating gay marriage with the examples you provide is just wrong and you are trying to stir up Hate. Gay marriage, in game or in real life is not the evil, morally corrupt issue you are pointing out. Not allowing them to marry who the LOVE is morally wrong. Also, there are married man-woman couples in RL who are more depraved and corrupt and evil than any loving gay couple. I am straight and happily married myself, but the extreme hate-filled view you have is unfair and very wrong.

    As to the in-game reasons/support:

    You must not know this, but my NPC buddy is female...and she hits on my female lalafell ALL the time. I mean she's like very specific and graphic....this would technically be a girl-girl storyline SE created that I have NO SAY in. I had no idea when I picked a female NPC buddy, she'd be hitting on me non-stop...I did it because I liked how she looked (btw I don't mind her comeons, I just think it's funny).

    Again, the CUL storyline revolves around transgender...in the style of Shakespeare's 12th Night.

    The Miners guild is basically a strip club (has nothing to do with gay relationships...but as you seem opposed to them as well thought I'd point out in game).

    There are several storylines involving gambling.

    Also, the MOST PERVERTED dialog in game atm is derogatory to Women. MRD/WAR quest is filled with it. I mean, it is borderline 'wth SE??!!' lude. No one seems to complain when girls are mis-treated like this in game...why? Because a male pirate on a boat might actually be a lude, demeaning man. It's part of playing the character.

    Also, keep in mind, many couples in RL play this game as girl-girl or guy-guy. Why can you not understand that they would want to be joined in game? They aren't gay...they just are playing the character type they most liked. Why punish them? Are you against Lala's marrying Elzen too?

    At the end of the day, you ARE playing a game in Real-time with real people. from the changing world. And like in the real world, the marriage of Ted and Steve will have very little if any effect on your personal life...no more than other marriages that were seen as 'taboo' in the past. (inter-racial, cross-economic, cross-religion etc.) I know this little post won't be enough for you to go, 'hey maybe I could be more open-minded' but stop hiding behind your hate. If you wanna treat others as lesser than you, that's fine, but realize we are ALL equal...regardless of how much money we have, who we love, who we worship, where we go to school....
    You basically said it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Likewise the problems with laws is, Commander Shepard banging Liara wasn't real either yet it pissed people off enough to try to pass stricter laws on game development.
    Where's Lenny Bruce when you need him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia
    Likewise the problems with laws is, Commander Shepard banging Liara wasn't real either yet it pissed people off enough to try to pass stricter laws on game development.
    Where's Lenny Bruce when you need him?


    I've played again this romance scene, and really, I don't see where people have found anything shocking. Meh, they are just frustrated cause Liara's scene lasts longer than the other crew members'.
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    Last edited by Emulord; 07-17-2012 at 01:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    You're comparing strip-clubs and greedy corporations to a basic human rights issue...
    Well 's that's right, I had to write something crazy down...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Wow... just wow. It's a game man. You aren't 'respecting' anything. ... you are trying to stir up Hate.
    Wow I know 'MAN', it is a game so nbd. I did my best to voice my opinion and not disrespecting anyone. Just because someone doesn't favor anything 'gay' and supports 'traditional' marriage, doesn't mean "HATE".
    I guess if I think is wrong to have 'that' in a video game, I'm the one that's crazy and shouldn't ever speak. It's cool! I'm not the one preaching hate.
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    Last edited by PSxpert2011; 07-17-2012 at 01:39 AM.


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