Rokien's new thread on Open World.

[Krausus]

It was one of the very first MMOs, it also also 100% open-world. It had a harsh death penalty, too. Actually, it even had dynamic fauna
I have to say that as many fond memories I have about it, it sucked. Those points I just mentioned sucked hard, anything and everything you did suffered very harsh inteference from other players that just wanted to be asses, you were so afraid to use your good gear anywhere, anytime, because you could loose it that you pretty much did not have it. And hell, they removed the dynamic fauna thing because of the unexpected side-effect it had of causing the entire fauna and flora of the game to die because players wanted to go out and ANNIHILATE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE.

there are actually a few games out there that still do total open world games such as Mortal Online, and Drakfall Online. These types of games are always very very heavy in PvP and are unfortunately not very successful. You will also not see a lot of PvE content in these types of games either.

[Babydoll]

THIS GAME WAS INTENDED TO BE FAR MORE CASUAL FRIENDLY THAN FFXI SINCE IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN 2009. Holy shit how dense can this community get.

This game also failed horribly and is being redone from the ground up with input from the community. Whatever was announced back then was (hopefully) tanakas vision. Now we are getting a completely new game from Yoshida.

Yoshidas 3 pillars sound a lot different then that whole "intended to be casual" stuff. I remember them saying that though. Lol the horrible "fatigue" system was there to try to keep some weird balance between hardcore and casual. So ya I REALLY hope they aren't sticking with the made for casuals mostly idea...thats what made the game fail in the first place imo..

[NumenarMithrandir]

I think I can speak for every open world lover, we are losing hope, is there anything you can tell/give us? We need something to keep us going, all these instances are wearing on us(us being the open world lovers). I know the poll says "you guys picked instanced" well, that poll was obscured because of the battle content that was also included in it. So, this is me begging for some info about anything cool open world. Something new that isn't in the pdf, something that I can drool over and squeal like a little girl.

So yoshi, can you give us anything? I think a lot of our patients are wearing thin. Especially with this latest patch... reasons I don't think I have to mention.

Ps. Please don't use quest-chaining for our open world content. Quest-chaining is the worst ever.

Also, any new clever thread titles that you guys can give me would be awesome. I'm only using this one as a joke, because my friend Lyndis got banned from the forums for a day with this thread title(not the reason why she got banned).

You need to remember their focus is 2.0, not before hand.... so they are not interested in adding anything till then. 2.0 I'm sure you will see something. I'm a fan of open world too but most people need to realize the team is working around the clock to manage something that they didn't start out with. I'm sure 2.0 will please most crowds, and if not then sad to say but can't please everyone. The current team has worked wonders and 2.0 looks amazing, cant wait! What comes comes, and if it's not for everyone then there are plenty of other mmos to go back to or try hehe. Placing pressure and trying to get a rise out of the crowd can't make them work any faster. I say let them do their job and be patient enough to wait for the fast approaching 2.0 version of FFXIV. To say again content before 2.0 is just something they will put together fast in order to maintain patience amongst the game players and give them a little something to place their time in "A time sink" till they can release their prized work "2.0".

[Rokien]

You need to remember their focus is 2.0, not before hand.... so they are not interested in adding anything till then. 2.0 I'm sure you will see something. I'm a fan of open world too but most people need to realize the team is working around the clock to manage something that they didn't start out with. I'm sure 2.0 will please most crowds, and if not then sad to say but can't please everyone. The current team has worked wonders and 2.0 looks amazing, cant wait! What comes comes, and if it's not for everyone then there are plenty of other mmos to go back to or try hehe. Placing pressure and trying to get a rise out of the crowd can't make them work any faster. I say let them do their job and be patient enough to wait for the fast approaching 2.0 version of FFXIV. To say again content before 2.0 is just something they will put together fast in order to maintain patience amongst the game players and give them a little something to place their time in "A time sink" till they can release their prized work "2.0".

where did you get that I was talking about 1.x? I don't even understand. This whole thread is about 2.0

[NumenarMithrandir]

where did you get that I was talking about 1.x? I don't even understand. This whole thread is about 2.0

All I'm pointing out your wording makes you look a little impatient and as if there is some sort of issue to be had with the current direction of the game come 2.0. Everyone has their own personal views they want to see happen in 2.0. So my response was based of your word usage.

I wouldn't worry about it anyhow, I'm sure they will add something more to your taste at or soon after 2.0. More or less they want everything to be somewhat of a surprise to the gamers and general crowd at this very moment. I figure its better that way. I'm not a fan of everything they have done, nor do I expect to be. Patience is key however... and understanding. For the most part I see it the other way around majority of the player base's patience and understanding of the game has increased, also shown by the many returning customers/players lol.

[NumenarMithrandir]

where did you get that I was talking about 1.x? I don't even understand. This whole thread is about 2.0

in other words, you may not see much open world content =/ as many said above most games are leading away from this.

[NumenarMithrandir]

They just need to have a balance. Some things instanced, some things open world. I rather have open world then instanced though.

Agreed one-hundred percent!

[Tricksy]

in other words, you may not see much open world content =/ as many said above most games are leading away from this.

Because those devs are lazy. Some of us expect better from the creators of FF11. Oh wait that was Square not SE.

Well we will see what they accomplish with 2.0

[Ruisu]

Oh wait that was Square not SE.

Oh boy you're one of those people.

[Andrien]

This game also failed horribly and is being redone from the ground up with input from the community. Whatever was announced back then was (hopefully) tanakas vision. Now we are getting a completely new game from Yoshida.

Yoshidas 3 pillars sound a lot different then that whole "intended to be casual" stuff. I remember them saying that though. Lol the horrible "fatigue" system was there to try to keep some weird balance between hardcore and casual. So ya I REALLY hope they aren't sticking with the made for casuals mostly idea...thats what made the game fail in the first place imo..

It was the lack of content, and clumpy UI that is at fault. It has nothing to do with casual gameplay. You should read more of Yoshi-P interviews. They're floating around somewhere.

If you understand the fatigue system, people wont be running through 1 to 50 in a matter of weeks. Even though it wasn't a perfect system you can still level other classes while one class fatigue resets.