Just remove leveling altogether if it's such a hindrance.

[Ruisu]

Tell me how again how ad-hominem attacks isn't trolling.

The paragraph following that states why this thread is bad. You just choose to ignore it.

[Jynx]

What's wrong with just having one thread for each topic and not letting it get so full of hate that it gets locked?

it's a shame that it only takes a few ignorant people to shut down a discussion thread. I understand that people don't always agree with me, but they often take the most silly measures to try and prove their point instead of actual discussion.

[Dragon]

The paragraph following that states why this thread is bad. You just choose to ignore it.

Hardly. You didn't explain why this thread is bad, you only made an opinion.

Fact: just because you don't like something doesn't mean someone else enjoying it has any less legitimacy.

[Anonymoose]

Says the same guy that claims anyone enjoying a leveling experience like in classical FFXI must somehow have cognitive dissonance.

How does that quote line up with that notion?

You really take things too personally; it's a fact: some people, in response to doing a task that they do not like, develop an artificial liking for that task. "I must like doing this if I spent all day doing it!" It happens.

It's also a fact that sometimes the feeling of delayed gratification is more due to the wait than the achievement - such is the case in many types of MMO grind, in my humble opinion. I, personally, would appreciate less of that. XIV can take that direction, and I'll take a different direction than XIV, no big.

Who even said I was talking about specifically you? I sure didn't.

Almost every single one of your responses is bascially "I disagree, so you must be completely wrong on every conceivable level." I wasn't even talking about you. It wasn't your thread. I didn't even notice you were there.

Why waste time attacking me? Argue your point, make your case, make this thread something that won't just get locked. Let's debate game mechanics.

[JillyBean]

I want to play a game where progression is rewarding and I feel like I've accomplished something new everyday. I think most would agree that we don't want a "World of Final Fantasycraft" we simply want something more like a next gen FFXI.

This^

(from the locked thread I didn't get a chance to post in)

[Dragon]

it's a shame that it only takes a few ignorant people to shut down a discussion thread. I understand that people don't always agree with me, but they often take the most silly measures to try and prove their point instead of actual discussion.

Remember, he claimed we must have cognitive dissonance because we enjoy content (a leveling process in this instance) that he doesn't.

[Antanias]

Leveling is fine as is.

[Ruisu]

Hardly. You didn't explain why this thread is bad, you only made an opinion.

Fact: just because you don't like something doesn't mean someone else enjoying it has any less legitimacy.

Actually, I wouldn't mind if they made levelling take a bit longer than what it does now. I just don't care if they leave it as is, either.

And no, stating that everyone should wait for a rep's response for a legitimate answer before making threads like this is not an opinion. It's being rational.

[Dragon]

How does that quote line up with that notion? You really take things too personally; it's a fact - some people, in response to doing a task that they do not like, develop an artificial liking for that task. "I must like doing this if I spent all day doing it!" It happens.

Who said I was talking about specifically you? I sure didn't.

You're the one that claimed people must like the leveling process because of cognitive dissonance. It's a good thing though the moderator deleted your post, isn't it?

[Dragon]

Actually, I wouldn't mind if they made levelling take a bit longer than what it does now. I just don't care if they leave it as is, either.

And no, stating that everyone should wait for a rep's response for a legitimate answer before making threads like this is not an opinion. It's being rational.

I wasn't going off what Rein said Yoshi said (I don't follow that thread), I was going off specifically of what people not liking the leveling process claim. Rational or not, it's still an opinion at best that you have.