What does SE plan to do regarding botters hogging the 3 top provider spots?

[Elexia]

IMO they should get rid of this ranking system entirely and adjust the scoring system accordingly not to use this information.

It's an absurd system that promots no-lifing.

No such thing as 'no-lifing' unless you mean it promotes suicide, thus ending your life? In reality, they still should have just went with the Campaign setup or even Besieged, just force us to climb ranks in the milita (since we ARE helping and relied on after all) and eventually let us buy the spoils.

[Alhanelem]

If you do it by yourself.... but that's incredibly inefficient.

Even if you work together (to the benefit of one person) it still takes quite some time and more importantly punishes everyone that's not doing it to the same level as you because they can't hope to get ranked.

No such thing as 'no-lifing' unless you mean it promotes suicide, thus ending your life?

Umm... "no-lifing" means making the game your life. e.g. the people who have nothing better to do because they dont' have a job or whatever and can afford to spend l hours every day spamming enter on their keyboard, or saving a little time by making their entire static do the same thing.

Seriously, do you and your static buddies really want to spend 2 hours getting the top spot in each hamlet every day til you all have your seals? Or would it make a lot more sense to just have one collective pool of crafting points and everybody wins?

Remove the stupid ranking system, and everyone has the same fair chance at drops.

[Madrox]

Even if you work together (to the benefit of one person) it still takes quite some time and more importantly punishes everyone that's not doing it to the same level as you because they can't hope to get ranked.

Umm... "no-lifing" means making the game your life. e.g. the people who have nothing better to do because they dont' have a job or whatever and can afford to spend l hours every day spamming enter on their keyboard, or saving a little time by making their entire static do the same thing.

Seriously, do you and your static buddies really want to spend 2 hours getting the top spot in each hamlet every day til you all have your seals? Or would it make a lot more sense to just have one collective pool of crafting points and everybody wins?

Remove the stupid ranking system, and everyone has the same fair chance at drops.

something must have really rustled your jimmies, theres nothing wrong with a little competition. just be patient.

[charlemagne]

I've been doing alot of gathering recently and what I see is quite a few people from the same linkshell doing the gathering and then only one of them appearing on the provisioners list. While I'm certain a small number of people do use third party tools the vast majority seem to be gathering fairly and cooperating as linkshells. It usually takes around a million points for top place on Ridill so even if you are a solo gatherer you can get a top 3 place once every week or two.

[viion]

stupid system is stupid! I agree with Alhanelem whole heartily.

[madolyn]

I don't mind the system. It is also completely possible to get seals without top provision too. we have gotten 4-5 seals per run.

It is funny though about the "bot" thing. I know of a lot of people who have never heard of the "stack one person at a time" type of strat. A lot of linkshells do this as far as i knew even in XI. I find that people that usually don't like it are the same ones that cry about "JP advantage". i imagined it going like this:

person: "Damn SE giving JP advantage. so and so has their relic already."
me: "and?"
person: "i cant even get hamlet seals! (or xxx item)"
me: "they probably got stacked by their linkshell. its not uncommon. you should get better friends"

[BlackomegaKingofwaffles]

It's not just bots in the top three some times I see miners and fishers as well.

[indira]

all you can do is report them.

i see alot of bots at the least common areas of the map or at the ends of the world just botting away crafting.

[Req]

In all honesty getting into the top 3 is a waste unless you are a single person that doesn't have an ls to get seals with. Doing it 3 days a week for the past 2 weeks our entire ls has almost everyone halfway done with getting seals, one person done, and a few of us that only need one or two more. Its just mind boggling that people are donating 3 million in mats just to get number 2 on the list instead of settling for number 18, running hamlets all day and getting 10+ seals across linkshell members.

As far as the botting thing goes though, it seems like that is the number one buzzword people go to if they don't have as much time to play the game as others.

[Yves]

Yes, the system favors botters. Yes, on my server I witnessed someone crafting nonstop (who admittedly bots) place in the top 3 numerous times. But I would rather botters exploit the system at the tradeoff of other classes being involved.

Second, I HATE the "no-lifers" argument. For starters, people who make this claim are following a model of putting others down while elevating themselves. That's just being weak-willed. The average American watches 250 billion hours of TV a year with limited social interaction and the average Brit and Canadian aren't far behind. By the definition, these people are also "no-lifers" which means, to some extent, everyone is a "no-lifer." Based on this information if everyone is a "no-lifer" then nobody is. Let's cut to the point: people call others "no-lifers" because they either disagree with their usage of time or they wish to elevate their own sense of worth by positioning those who are more invested than themselves as being inferior socially - both of which are for cowardly individuals who can't assume responsibility for themselves.

I spend about 35-60 hours a week studying. I spend another 16-25 training. The rest? I spend mostly on here with maybe 2-6 hours bow fishing. Last I checked I lead a very balanced, rewarding, healthy and fulfilling life with a great deal of interaction with my family and my girlfriend.

Knock it off.