Breaking down some of the screenshots

[KaplanHomahru]

This thread has a very bad Bitching to Screenshot Breakdown ratio.

[Exekutor]

Honesty goes a long way my friend.

I agree, i just think that SE is more honest than it should. Too much is always bad, and this does also apply on honesty.

[Jekyll]

Well i dont know what you are about to say with that. Are you aware that FFVII´s graphics were groundbreaking for the time of its release? It was the first 3D Final Fantasy and had stunning overall graphics and video sequences.

Even if not the best example, it's pretty obvious that gameplay > graphics by a long shot.

[casker]

not a screenshot, but this succubus artwork looks like it was done by Tsubasa Masao, rather than Yoshida. Tsubasa quickly becoming one of my favorite artists.

[Ikea]

Even if not the best example, it's prett obvious that gameplay > graphics by a long shot.

Well I agree, what's your point? I liked my terrain textures, I liked my great looking bushes. Do I have to trade those for low resolution textures and flat bushes just to get good gameplay? Because if that's the case then I'll do it, I just don't see the reason for me having to make that tradeoff.

[Jekyll]

Well I agree, what's your point? I liked my terrain textures, I liked my great looking bushes. Do I have to trade those for low resolution textures and flat bushes just to get good gameplay? Because if that's the case then I'll do it, I just don't see the reason for me having to make that tradeoff.

I wasn't arguing that we have to make that trade off, I was simply stating that graphics are a small portion of the experience. Nothing was implied beyond that statement. While I'm not as enthusiastic about the "great looking bushes", I too enjoy having my cake and being able to eat it.

[bobbygunz]

Are you kidding. Obviously since I've just read 2 of your post that state the graphics aren't great..... I don't know with what kind of eyes you have in your head but you should be seeing a significant improvement........ The rise in quality is hard to deny, I just don't understand where you could be coming from.

Well, shadows are the obvious improvement, and the only one I can really see. I don't know what kind of eyes you have if you can't see everything else is worse (low res textures, lower polygon count).

[Ikea]

I wasn't arguing that we have to make that trade off, I was simply stating that graphics are a small portion of the experience. Nothing was implied beyond that statement. While I'm not as enthusiastic about the "great looking bushes", I too enjoy having my cake and being able to eat it.

And you're a lalafell? The bushes feel like a jungle, you can almost get lost in them!

[bobbygunz]

Even if not the best example, it's pretty obvious that gameplay > graphics by a long shot.

That's true. But you can't really judge gameplay from a screenshot. In this thread, we are just judging the screenshots, not gameplay. And from screenshots obviously 2.0 graphics are worse than current FFXIV graphics, the improved shadows notwithstanding.

[Exekutor]

I think when the new site launches in a day or two we will know more.