No trailer at E3 LOL @ SE

[Murugan]

lol what?

E3 isn't big for "PC gaming"?

That is why FFXIV was originally promoted at.. E3, and many other MMO announcements are done at E3.

People who follow MMO's follow E3 for MMO's, so no it isn't "overshadowed" except for people who aren't interested in MMO's. Just like I'm not interested in Wii-U bowling so I probably won't read about it there.

Saying it isn't the end of the world is one thing, but saying it is "smart" because it would only get overshadowed is silly. So they should unveil it at something low key like penny arcade expo? Big game reveals are traditionally done at E3, and that is where most people look for them. I wish they had shown something to generate hype at E3.

Obviously they just didn't have anything to show that would accomplish that yet. That is a shame.

[Nero]

lol what?

E3 isn't big for "PC gaming"?

That is why FFXIV was originally promoted at.. E3, and many other MMO announcements are done at E3.

E3 is an NA-Event, not an World-Event. Its not even the biggest Cames-Convention.

The biggest are the Tokyo Game Show and the Games-Con in Germany, which are both 3 times the Size of the E3.

Even if it was first announced on the E3.. wasnt the first playable Demo presented at the Games-Con?

[Andrien]

E3 is an NA-Event, not an World-Event. Its not even the biggest Cames-Convention.

The biggest are the Tokyo Game Show and the Games-Con in Germany, which are both 3 times the Size of the E3.

Even if it was first announced on the E3.. wasnt the first playable Demo presented at the Games-Con?

true story

[Chardrizard]

E3 is an NA-Event, not an World-Event. Its not even the biggest Cames-Convention.

The biggest are the Tokyo Game Show and the Games-Con in Germany, which are both 3 times the Size of the E3.

Even if it was first announced on the E3.. wasnt the first playable Demo presented at the Games-Con?

Didn't you know only NAs matters? IF I CAN'T GO EVERYTHING IS GONNA FAIL AND DOOOOMMEEDD

[Colino]

E3 is an NA-Event, not an World-Event. Its not even the biggest Cames-Convention.

False, False and False. E3 is a global event by any means and when announcements happen they are global. Sure it mostly focuses on the NA audience but that doesn't mean they never announce anything pertinent to other markets.

As far as third party coverage and media it is still the biggest event in gaming. You can say your local pizza parlor has more attendies or that Lady Gaga's birthday party had more media coverage but that doesn't change the truth.

Even if it was first announced on the E3.. wasnt the first playable Demo presented at the Games-Con?

Well that's hardly surprising considering the state the game was in. It was playable at E3 2010 (I was there) but all they had was alpha material.

[Nero]

False, False and False. E3 is a global event by any means and when announcements happen they are global. Sure it mostly focuses on the NA audience but that doesn't mean they never announce anything pertinent to other markets.

As far as third party coverage and media it is still the biggest event in gaming. You can say your local pizza parlor has more attendies or that Lady Gaga's birthday party had more media coverage but that doesn't change the truth.

Like you just said im wrong? Get your facts straight before posting. It doesnt matter how many times you say that im wrong, it wont change facts. What makes it Global? Because you can watch it on the Internet? Because you can check everything about it on the Internet? Because Publishers from all over the World attend there?.. If you go by that, every fu**ing existing Con is a Global Player then.. lol.

Well that's hardly surprising considering the state the game was in. It was playable at E3 2010 (I was there) but all they had was alpha material.

The Games-Con was 1 Month after E3. <_<

[Daku_Naito]

Like you just said im wrong? Get your facts straight before posting. It doesnt matter how many times you say that im wrong, it wont change facts. What makes it Global? Because you can watch it on the Internet? Because you can check everything about it on the Internet? Because Publishers from all over the World attend there?.. If you go by that, every fu**ing existing Con is a Global Player then.. lol.



The Games-Con was 1 Month after E3. <_<

It doesn't matter which conference brings the biggest crowd, it matters who is watching it. Many people tune in to e3 maybe more then any other gaming convention in the world. Yes, maybe the above two are bigger, but that doesn't mean e3 is to be put lightly. It is one of the most important events for game devs, if not the most.

Also it is a world event, considering it is broadcasted all over the world.

Also, no matter how much SE loves JP (as they prob should) NA is their biggest consumer. But companies like SE and Nintendo will always think of their backyard first, just like American gaming companies do in America.

To put e3 lightly, like you are doing, is just wrong. I have no idea what SE is doing, if they aren't doing a trailer and might surprise with gameplay, or not, but I think I'll still trust them to blow our minds with 2.0.

People still can't come up with a consences, what happened with 1.0. Did the top guns at SE push for a release too early? Or did the devs just go in the wrong direction? I say both, the big guys pushed for a early release of a game going in the wrong direction. Yoshi is trying to prevent that. If he thinks there shouldn't be a trailer, then we should trust him. Because he cares for the game, he is trying to push it in the right direction and give it enough time to be great. If they were to release a trailer with just CG, I'd be pissed, better not one then that.

[Nero]

It doesn't matter which conference brings the biggest crowd, it matters who is watching it. More people tune in to e3 then any other gaming convention in the world. It is one of the most important events for game devs, if not the most.

And who is saying that? Are you a Game-Dev that you know that? I never said E3 is not important, but its not the biggest Games-Con, and has not the highest attendance. Thats common knowledge.. oh wait.. FFXIV-Forum..

Also it is a world event, considering it is broadcasted all over the world.

Like i said, that makes every Convention an World-Event. And as a matter of fact you wont see it in a lot of European Countries on TV btw. Just a couple "non-famous" Game-Channels on Pay-TV will show it.

To put e3 lightly, like you are doing, is just wrong. I have no idea what SE is doing, if they aren't doing a trailer and might surprise with gameplay, or not, but I think I'll still trust them to blow our minds with 2.0.

You just put the 2 bigger Games-Con's lightly compared to E3.. so why not following your own advice first? I know tons of people, including me, which dont give a f*ck about E3 beside FFXIV News.

people still can't come up with a consences, what happened with 1.0. Did the top guns at SE push for a release too early? Or did the devs just go in the wrong direction? I say both, the big guys pushed for a early release of a game going in the wrong direction. Yoshi is trying to prevent that. If he thinks there shouldn't be a trailer, then we should trust him. Because he cares for the game, he is trying to push it in the right direction and give it enough time to be great. If they were to release a trailer with just CG, I'd be pissed, better not one then that.

I agree there.

[Daku_Naito]

And who is saying that? Are you a Game-Dev that you know that? I never said E3 is not important, but its not the biggest Games-Con, and has not the highest attendance. Thats common knowledge.. oh wait.. FFXIV-Forum..



Like i said, that makes every Convention an World-Event. And as a matter of fact you wont see it in a lot of European Countries on TV btw. Just a couple "non-famous" Game-Channels on Pay-TV will show it.



You just put the 2 bigger Games-Con's lightly compared to E3.. so why not following your own advice first? I know tons of people, including me, which dont give a f*ck about E3 beside FFXIV News.



I agree there.

Geez, you broke it in to pieces, btw, I changed bits of what I said before you posted. Anyways, let me dissect this.

Okay, I never mentioned TV, by broadcasted, I was referring to the Internet. Also, I never put the other two lightly, I said don't put e3 lightly. Also I'm glad you agree with me ^^

[Murugan]

Like you just said im wrong? Get your facts straight before posting. It doesnt matter how many times you say that im wrong, it wont change facts. What makes it Global? Because you can watch it on the Internet? Because you can check everything about it on the Internet? Because Publishers from all over the World attend there?.. If you go by that, every fu**ing existing Con is a Global Player then.. lol.



The Games-Con was 1 Month after E3. <_<

Most Japanese developers use Tokyo Game Show for their huge news, given as it's in Japan, and they're Japanese.

E3 is a joke anymore, it's all about getting the biggest name you can afford to promote Call of Duty 4: Black Ops 2: Modern Warfare 3: The Expansion 6.



Final Fantasy XIV was first announced during the Sony Press Conference in 2009. It was only mentioned there because it was "Sony Exclusive" and fit in with the trailer for Final Fantasy XIII. If it wasn't being made for the PlayStation 3, it wouldn't have even been mentioned at E3.

Wait so why is Tokyo Game Show suddenly global but E3 is not?

They are both attended by big names, and saying that Japanese developers only announce at TGS is wrong considering how many major announcements over the years have been made by Japanese software and hardware developers at E3 and not Tokyo Game Show.

I don't know what games-con is, but Gamescom has only been around for about 3 years, in that time you think it is a bigger deal than E3 and has more attention? What do you base that on? I've never heard of anything important ever being unveiled at gamescom.

Who cares about how many people go to these things, it is about what is typically unveiled there that determines whether people pay attention to them or not. Gamescom is always much lower profile than E3, and that isn't likely to change this year either.