Of the lack of auto-crafting option

[Silma]

Hello community

One thing that really bothers me in FFXIV is the lack of an auto-crafting system like it exists in almost all the other MMOs out there.

I understand the point of view of Devs about this : "No character can perform an action without the player activating a key". I may not summarize it well but this is the idea. While this is a noble idea, especially after years of failing in FFXI ( ... ) I think it is poorly implemented in FFXIV. One of the example for that were the hundreds of crafting bots back in the time when "standard work" was enough.

But this is not my point.

My point is : suppose you want to level goldsmith and you need danburite for this. So you take your pickaxe and go farm danburites. You can not bot this, and even if you are a programmer, it would reveal long and difficult to code a bot to do this.
So you are out there farming danburites and spend time for this. Time which you might not have a lot of. Then you need to craft those danburites to level up goldsmith, but then you need to spend time AGAIN doing nothing else than pressing the enter key, and sometimes the down arrow key to select the good action.

I think it is not normal that you have to spend time twice this way. It really makes farming for crafting a pain in the a** and a not fun at all activity.

Compare this to other games where you know that after 2hours of intense farming, you can rest your character in some place and it would craft all those gems / melt ingots / do whatever on its own, while you grab yourself a drink and congratulate yourself for such a good farming session.

In conclusion, I get a more intense sense of rewardship when my character is able to craft what i farmed, than having to craft each and every single item one after the other.

As an opening, I would like to have a button "craft this reciepe multiple times" when you know you will craft your 54 danburites in a row, instead of having to chose the same reciepe every time.

thanks for reading

[TheVedis]

Our crafting system is unlike any other mmo out there

we can actualy use our crafts in combat and stuff with some of the new combat for example

auto crafting is meant for a crafting system that has NO IMPACT ON THE GAME AND IS NOT ITS OWN CLASS,
in 14, its its own class and can do more then make gear

that alone says it all

[Chardrizard]

Also if you spam enters you will never level as fast as the one that spams bold for quality. No wonder it's miserable for you, do you even know quality increases your experience?

[Silma]

Also if you spam enters you will never level as fast as the one that spams bold for quality. No wonder it's miserable for you, do you even know quality increases your experience?

of course i do, i use quality a lot when doing mandats.
But here i'm not talking about quality, i'm talking about quantity.
This game is very not user friendly when it comes to crafting stuff in quantities and i think they can improve that without ruining the craft=class philosophy.

[TheVedis]

of course i do, i use quality a lot when doing mandats.
But here i'm not talking about quality, i'm talking about quantity.
This game is very not user friendly when it comes to crafting stuff in quantities and i think they can improve that without ruining the craft=class philosophy.

they have been improving on ALOT of stuff, the problem however in now way shape or form lies within an auto craft feature

if they add something that lets you walk away from your computer and lets the game do the work for you, thatd essentialy be botting in regards to how crafting here is handled, so yeah, wont happen

[Chardrizard]

of course i do, i use quality a lot when doing mandats.
But here i'm not talking about quality, i'm talking about quantity.
This game is very not user friendly when it comes to crafting stuff in quantities and i think they can improve that without ruining the craft=class philosophy.

Hasty Hand is your friend then. No you won't be able to make 54 at once, I wont even go about how ridiculous the idea of that sounds. I am sure the other MMO lets you craft once at a time too to prevent market flood.

[Taika]

Also if you spam enters you will never level as fast as the one that spams bold for quality. No wonder it's miserable for you, do you even know quality increases your experience?

This. You're simply doing it wrong.

[Rydin]

Also if you spam enters you will never level as fast as the one that spams bold for quality. No wonder it's miserable for you, do you even know quality increases your experience?

First off, I agree with you... I am very much against auto-crafting...
But what you said here isn't entirely true.

All things being relative, Spamming standard CAN (see: has the potential to) net you more XP per hour than bolding, depending on the synth, your level, etc...
For instance... If Raising the quality makes the synth take 3 times longer (Which is very possible) and yet only yields twice the experience.
This is definitely within the realm of possibility considering 1000 quality gives you a 400% increase, yet for a synth a couple levels higher than you without ALL HQ mats (I never had the luxury of grinding HQ mats), you wont even be in the 1000 quality ballpark

So situations exist where spamming standard can give you more XP in a given amount of time.

However...

Crafting for quality increases will always give you more XP per item (And crystals). So if you're grinding on some synth that uses an item that is more difficult to procure, then yes, Boosting quality is the way to go.

So if you're doing armorer, where the mats are super easy to obtain, and you have an overabundance of earth shards, then I'd say you should probably spam standard to your hearts content

To the OP: I'm surprised to see this thread now... when crafting is at it's all time easiest. Actions have been sped up, XP increased, rested bonus implemented, Manuals easier to obtain, abilities have clear descriptions. the point people are making is that crafting is important, and therefore shouldnt be easy

[Delsus]

First you can bot mining if you want, basicly its just hit lay of the land (different areas would influance it) you input what you want to mine then it automatically hits lay of the land, reads the screen and runs to the node, then at the node (tab around for the ???) hit up or down x amount of times for the sweet spot and a timer on the hits. (its a little more advanced than that but its the jist of it.)

Second, crafting is its own class, I would never like to level a class on start crafting, output 0=fail, output 1= NQ success, output 10= HQ, while it takes time to craft its based around skill as well as luck, you need to know what everything does and means, for example, you want to go for HQ you are at 15 durability 97 progress and 20% HQ, do you use bold to get that extra quality and the possibility of a botch, or do you go for standard to finish and go for a low double down odds?

Auto crafting (like FFXI) is just a random number generator, and a specific output indicates the results, 100% luck and randomness {no thanks} even change materia so its more skill based and less random please.

[Felis]

Auto-craft with 50% success chance and no exp would be ok, i think
Or just use for quantity hasty hand and the "3 in 1" recipes