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  1. #21
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    Let me say that while your post is cynical, it is not "whining" as the majority of the community has been able to label it. I have a degree in Computer Science so allow me to give my opinion on the "botting" issue.

    A bot is a program that hi-jacks the controls of the game and then control the character to do specific movements or actions. These programs vary greatly and are not easily blocked. the developers/producers can not flip a switch, press a button, or change one thing to fix this issue. A lot of the mechanics of the current game were based on the premise to combat RMT and bots. The market wards and the mini-game crafting/gathering system are good examples of these.

    Another by product of the attempts to stop botting is the sluggish interface. From what I have heard the interface takes input from the client, send it to the server to be verified that the action was done by a person, not a bot, then the action is preformed. While this seems like a good idea on paper, the time it takes for that information to travel to and from the server is an issue.

    As I am sure you are aware the development team is focusing on implementing features they are planning on having in v2.0. So while there may be a glitch that can be exploited, I am sure that while they do want to fix it, it may not be the first thing they have in the queue.

    Botting is an issue in any MMO. It has not been stopped nor fixed in any, and there is no definite way to stop it.

    While I can not comment on the other mechanics you have touched on (as I have not played as long as most) I hope this sheds some light on why it is hard to stomp out botting.
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    OP must be dating Rokien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    if exploits are allowed then people expect other to exploit to keep up with gear. And people who want to play legit (most people) fall behind and don't get to experience as much of the game, while those who cheat prosper.

    For example in this game a lot of people i know want to do fishing, but see no point in it because it is so heavily botted that it will never be profitable.

    Allowing exploits is just generally a bad idea. I personally don't care however.
    You definitely care enough to make this thread.

    And how the hell is fishing or any gathering not profitable.. It takes no resources to fish or gathers, its basically money every pull. If you mean the money isnt as big as what u'd expect then lol... Market is surprisingly stable in commonly used items. I really doubt you even actively participate in market.

    I have made 20m alone on foods and meds last week despite every crafter being botter like you say.

    Im against bottig but you are making shit up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    You definitely care enough to make this thread.

    And how the hell is fishing or any gathering not profitable.. It takes no resources to fish or gathers, its basically money every pull. If you mean the money isnt as big as what u'd expect then lol... Market is surprisingly stable in commonly used items. I really doubt you even actively participate in market.

    I have made 20m alone on foods and meds last week despite every crafter being botter like you say.

    Im against bottig but you are making shit up.
    Hmm... That is interesting...
    Being a new player, I would really like to know hot to make even 5mil a week.
    Seems like a difficult thing to do for a newby ;-(
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    OP seems to think that it's SE's fault for enabling exploits and not the fault of the players who find them.

    You want a game without any potential exploits? Then you're asking for a game with low agency and not at all the sort of "amusment park" that is Yoshida's goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Hmm... That is interesting...
    Being a new player, I would really like to know hot to make even 5mil a week.
    Seems like a difficult thing to do for a newby ;-(
    not as hard as you would think....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    OP must be dating Rokien
    rokien hasn't posted in a bit, maybe op is rokien

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    can someone do a tldr the whole thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Hmm... That is interesting...
    Being a new player, I would really like to know hot to make even 5mil a week.
    Seems like a difficult thing to do for a newby ;-(
    Consumables are very high in demand.

    If you only have have battle class, buy gears, spiritbond and sell the materias. Its always profit if u know which gear to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Consumables are very high in demand.

    If you only have have battle class, buy gears, spiritbond and sell the materias. Its always profit if u know which gear to buy.
    Also if you are leveling crafts, make gear and stuff that people will actually want to use and don't flood the market with 1 item. You get a lot of xp now on much less number of synths especially if you boost Quality.
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