Why is the FF14 Community So Adverse to Banter?

[RagAndBoneLady]

I find it fascinating to spectate as it's such a strange language! Best spoken to fellow people who know the lingo and come from the same spheres as you, like any foreign language or slang because not every one will understand what you mean. I have to look up things all the time, haha! XD

Best to curate your own company if you cannot adapt when people do not receive it well.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Gaming culture is changing.

I'm an older gamer so not easily offended as I don't really associate my gameplay with personal achievement. I also take long breaks so not always on top of my game anymore since there are so many long periods in FFXIV where there is absolutely nothing I want to do, so when I come back after months of not playing I can be rusty.

Certain behaviors of the past aren't really acceptable anymore and people in general seem hypersensitive. Like people reporting and getting people banned in Elder Scrolls Online for T-Bagging in PVP and people saying it's sexual assault. My mind boggles. But here we are.

[VeyaAkemi]

The nature of content plays a massive role in this, look at your first example, OSRS woodchopping, what's the gameplay loop there? click a tree, wait an animation, move, click another tree? you have an absurd amount of downtime between player input.

Now consider the primary form of content in XIV, which is instanced content, from the moment you are dropped in, you are expected to be playing, with a 2.5s or lower GCD, the downtime between player input is absurdly low comparatively, even more if you are playing a high APM Job with tons of weaving, you simply do not have the time to type a message without stopping playing outright.

Banter still happens, but you have to go for the places for it, field ops often have plenty of banter, even OC with its much higher pace still has plenty, you can also often find people having talks in shout chat in major ARR cities, sometimes I run into people having what sounds like very private conversations in say chat, it's there, it's just not in the places you want it to be.

[Ilisidi]

At least there's now also several people who enjoy bantering like OP. You should all meet up and banter with each other.

[DjAldo]

I've been playing a lot of Old School Runescape and recently tried Guild Wars 2 and there really is a night and day difference between those communities and FF14's. Within minutes of making my Ironman in OSRS and arriving in Lumbridge, I was already engaging in good-natured banter and trash talk with randos while chopping trees. Just walked up to them and said "sup noobs" or something along those lines and, BOOM, we were off to the races. Similar story with GW2. Just threw in a stereotypical bro-ish message in Map Chat in Queensdale and people were responding and it was fun and good vibes. Also, people actually respond out in the overworld in GW2. Not just when asking for help, but even just for starting a random conversation.

In comparison, I just got out of a duty in FF14 and said "sit lol" to someone who died and they started acting like I called them a slur. I truly do not understand what is going on in the FF14 community and why people can't just relax and learn to not take everything as a personal attack.

What's up with that??? Where are my fellow stereotypical bros at mang.

Few years too late bro

gonna copyright strike you RIGHT NOW

[Hastatus]

People are too sensitive, have different mental maturities, and players often do not speak the same 'language'. I had to look up "sit lol" and still do not really understand what that means exactly. Is that like in shooters when players would stand and crouch repeatedly over someone they killed? Been a decade for me so it could have changed by now. I always used to take "lol" as being neither positive or negative, but depending on context; some people think it means they are being laughed at menacingly no matter what you said or meant. I avoid saying jokes in game often because sometimes I think at least one person cannot understand them or are in a state of mind where they assume everything is aimed at them in a hostile manner. Some people take some things said in this game way too seriously. When I did one of the early DT dungeons for the first time I said "So after 10 years we can finally climb up a ladder. 8)" I quickly realized someone was angry at me and I didn't understand why. I was just commenting on the first ladder I had ever seen in a Dungeon. I later realized they must have thought I was making fun of them for taking too much time to climb the ladder. Maybe they were the last one up...I hadn't been paying attention to them; I was in awe of the presence of an actual ladder. Basically if you are going to say anything, you have to overanalyze what you are about to say to predict if there is some way it could possibly be misconstrued as a personal attack. The problem is good people not intending to mean any harm will rarely perceive how their words will be taken badly by those always on the hunt for some possible negative meaning.

It just occurred to me: does the FFXIV start-up have any form of interaction age warning? brb Nope. No T for Teens or M for Mature rating anywhere during the process of booting up the game. Is the game for 13+, 15+, 16+, 17+. I could have sworn I had read mature ratings at some point somewhere when I first started playing many years ago. nvm I found it. It's on their website when you buy an expansion: T but with "Language" warning. lol I'm sure there is something somewhere about "online interactions" not being rated or some such? I'm glad I always assume a grandma and their grandkid might be the ones I'm playing a roulette with.

[Astronis]

It just occurred to me: does the FFXIV start-up have any form of interaction age warning? brb Nope. No T for Teens or M for Mature rating anywhere during the process of booting up the game. Is the game for 13+, 15+, 16+, 17+. I could have sworn I had read mature ratings at some point somewhere when I first started playing many years ago. nvm I found it. It's on their website when you buy an expansion: T but with "Language" warning. lol I'm sure there is something somewhere about "online interactions" not being rated or some such? I'm glad I always assume a grandma and their grandkid might be the ones I'm playing a roulette with.

Yea it doesn't at start up, but most of the ratings worldwide are in the 13-15 range and the ToS explicitly states the game is geared toward an audience of 13 or older and that you agree to behave accordingly, so the GMs get shirty if they get reports about people behaving in a way inappropriate for 13 year olds.

Not that a little banter is inappropriate for that age, but people are expected to behave like grandma and her grandkids are playing!

[Wyssahtyn]

i got op in an alliance raid one time and they spent the entire time spamming shit about their (ex?) girlfriend or something. to say nothing of how they're just another one of the terminally online weirdos who frequently haunt ul'dah's shout chat.

small wonder why no one wants to interact with them.

[JohnLakeside]

i got op in an alliance raid one time and they spent the entire time spamming shit about their (ex?) girlfriend or something. to say nothing of how they're just another one of the terminally online weirdos who frequently haunt ul'dah's shout chat.

small wonder why no one wants to interact with them.

We're back together again hehehe. Sorry you don't see the joy in my emotion dump Rez Macros =')

It actually warms my heart a bit that you remember me huehuehue.

[CCheshire]

We're back together again hehehe. Sorry you don't see the joy in my emotion dump Rez Macros =')

It actually warms my heart a bit that you remember me huehuehue.

What are we doing here and was this a cry for attention post, op? Also, I wouldn't spam nonsense to total strangers into reading chat for no reason, esp in ARs where it's already tedious to clear them, along with being distracted is a fast way to dying because they're so hectic.