The promised crafting system of "HQ mats = HQ result"

[Ryans]

I created this thread because the players were sold on a system where HQ mats are required for HQ synthesis, but in exchange for this new requirement, HQ synthesis would be guaranteed. This is not the system we received, and (to my knowledge) Yoshida has yet to address this departure from a feature that he himself directly promised.

If you read my post, you'd know its possible to guarantee a HQ on any recipe lower than you level and almost guarantee a HQ on the highest recipes in the game. Maybe yoshida should have put a disclaimer on the 100% statement that said "if crafted correctly, guaranteed HQ"

[Spider-Dan]

If you read my post, you'd know its possible to guarantee a HQ on any recipe lower than you level and almost guarantee a HQ on the highest recipes in the game. Maybe yoshida should have put a disclaimer on the 100% statement that said "if crafted correctly, guaranteed HQ"

Your post is incorrect.

Undyed Woolen Cloth is an R45 synth. On my R50 WVR, exclusively using HQ materials (and therefore starting at 500 quality), I have yet to reach 1000 quality (i.e. 100% HQ rate) a single time. (In fact, I have yet to reach 1000 quality on any synth ever, though I will say that I don't exactly spend a lot of time trying to make HQ synths of extremely low level recipes.)

You should also keep in mind that this is while using abilities from my R50 CRP and R36 ALC. I think it is completely fair to say that unless a synth is far below your level, reaching 1000 quality with the abilities from your own class is virtually impossible. You need to have a fairly broad variety of high level DoH (in conjunction with full HQ mats) to consistently break 90% HQ rate on anything closer than 10 levels below you.

If you have a strategy for consistently reaching 1000 quality on a synth within 10 levels of you, I look forward to hearing it.

[Ryans]

Your post is incorrect.

Undyed Woolen Cloth is an R45 synth. On my R50 WVR, exclusively using HQ materials (and therefore starting at 500 quality), I have yet to reach 1000 quality (i.e. 100% HQ rate) a single time. (In fact, I have yet to reach 1000 quality on any synth ever, though I will say that I don't exactly spend a lot of time trying to make HQ synths of extremely low level recipes.)

You should also keep in mind that this is while using abilities from my R50 CRP and R36 ALC. I think it is completely fair to say that unless a synth is far below your level, reaching 1000 quality with the abilities from your own class is virtually impossible. You need to have a fairly broad variety of high level DoH (in conjunction with full HQ mats) to consistently break 90% HQ rate on anything closer than 10 levels below you.

If you have a strategy for consistently reaching 1000 quality on a synth within 10 levels of you, I look forward to hearing it.

How could my post be incorrect?... Its from personal experience. Are you telling me that I've never gotten nearly 500 quality (using only NQ mats and 492 to exact) on a recipe 4 levels over my current level? I consistent break 85% on any craft 4-5 levels over mine. So again, maybe you are using the wrong abilities.

Just an fyi, I use Culmination, Manipulation, Fit for Kings, Grand Design, and the Brand of the element in use. I always start with Culmination -> Rapid -> Manipulation -> Fit for Kings on the next white orb -> Quality until durability is under 9 -> Grand Design and the Brand if the element goes unstable.

That is without the more powerful durability and progress abilities, so I would imagine it would be even easier if you had those.

[Spider-Dan]

How could my post be incorrect?... Its from personal experience. Are you telling me that I've never gotten nearly 500 quality (using only NQ mats and 492 to exact) on a recipe 4 levels over my current level?

Adding 492 quality will never guarantee a HQ. QED.