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  1. #151
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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  2. #152
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    Not difficult to handle, but I can see the many complaints about healers not healing to avoid breaking their combos. 2-3 GCDs delayed can cause death sometimes.
    I genuinely want to know what it is that makes people see “maybe we could have anything but one button spam” and immediately go “BUT WHAT SBOUT COMBO BREAKING WHAT IF I HABE TO GCD HEAL MY COMBO BREAKS COMBO BREAK COMBO COMBO”

    We literally had more complexity in healer damage kits for 3 expansions and this was never a concern. Why do people instantly create it as a problem
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #153
    Player Ser_Arven's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I genuinely want to know what it is that makes people see “maybe we could have anything but one button spam” and immediately go “BUT WHAT SBOUT COMBO BREAKING WHAT IF I HABE TO GCD HEAL MY COMBO BREAKS COMBO BREAK COMBO COMBO”

    We literally had more complexity in healer damage kits for 3 expansions and this was never a concern. Why do people instantly create it as a problem
    Because this isn't about wanting a more interesting kit as a healer. Every time giving healers more damage buttons or extra dots to manage, even just a second DPS spell to cycle is mentioned there is an argument about why it's impossible and a bad idea, such as the breaking combo nonsense.

    This is about players who don't like the idea that healers are expected to dps in this game. They want to only cast healing spells and absoutley empty their mp and healing kit every opportunity they get because "that's what healers do."
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  4. #154
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    Eww, 50% overheals. What a waste. Edit: and looking closer, you can see your coheal is actually more efficient and actually beat your effective heals in most of those screenshots. You're only top because of the overheals. That SCH is actually a better healer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    If you’re going to post logs, at least be honest and don’t cherry‑pick only the ones where you performed well. (Deleted the picture I had posted here.)
    Allow me to answer you both.



    It's extremely apparent the level of understanding both of you have, and probably one of the reasons why SE stopped taking feedback from the forums.

    Overheal means absolutely nothing; it tells you nothing, and the parse is only an indicator of how well both healers synergised and didn't overlap on stuff.
    I do generally try to pay attention, and my healing rotation is never static, for that matter. The ability to be fluid and not always perform the same standard rotation, but adapt and pay attention to what your co-healer is doing, is another layer of mastery.
    This is particularly hard in PF because you never played with that person before, and you don't know their healing and mitigation plan for that fight. Being able to adapt on the fly and pay attention is not something many even care about. That includes me because in reclears, I just want to get in and get out.

    As for overheal from WHM, it's in their kit because of how Asize functions. You have to press it on CD, and if people are hull hp or not a lot hp missing, it will go straight into OH.



    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Metrics like this isn't even a good point to start on. If you bothered to look at the percentage of casts on the other hand such as how many times I pressed Dia/Glare vs. Healing GCDs? You'd see the difference and why people are clamoring for more DPS Buttons.
    None because you are playing DPS.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Overheal means absolutely nothing; it tells you nothing.
    Over healing in a time long lost in xiv actually was detrimental and could lead to mana issues. You bringing up OH of 50% is "just how WHM works" is proof enough this development team has zero idea how to make efficient healers. Did you explain why assize is used on CD? Oh, right, because we aren't healers, just support DPS.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I genuinely want to know what it is that makes people see “maybe we could have anything but one button spam” and immediately go “BUT WHAT SBOUT COMBO BREAKING WHAT IF I HABE TO GCD HEAL MY COMBO BREAKS COMBO BREAK COMBO COMBO”

    We literally had more complexity in healer damage kits for 3 expansions and this was never a concern. Why do people instantly create it as a problem
    Did any of those damage kits have combination spells like the ones brought up in my quote? I surely don't remember any damaging spell combination that would be broken if not done in order for any healer. It also wasn't brought up as a complaint, just an observation and prediction of this community.
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  7. #157
    Player Ser_Arven's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    Over healing in a time long lost in xiv actually was detrimental and could lead to mana issues. You bringing up OH of 50% is "just how WHM works" is proof enough this development team has zero idea how to make efficient healers. Did you explain why assize is used on CD? Oh, right, because we aren't healers, just support DPS.
    And thats the point of the game. You are support dps, EVERYONE is a dps. Expecting the devs to change the game for you is beyond entitled. This whole post reeks of Karen energy even being titled "shame on you Mr Yoshida" or whatever.
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    Last edited by Ser_Arven; 03-18-2026 at 12:32 PM.

  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser_Arven View Post
    or whatever.
    Couldn't you have scrolled up a little and checked...? come on dude, it's like 3 seconds.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    Couldn't you have scrolled up a little and checked...? come on dude, it's like 3 seconds.
    No, no I can read. Not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative is stupid
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser_Arven View Post
    No, no I can read. Not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative is stupid
    I didn't say you are illiterate, I said you were lazy, to a fault.

    Also what the hell "doesn't agree with your narrative"? I am not a part of this argument, I am here to see the clowns, like any good circus.
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