Shame on you, you failed us with Hamlet Defense

[Jinko]

And why are the NPC front line guards archers...?

This.

I guess SE are just trolling us.

FFXI did have a character draw limit which seems to be the case in XIV as well right now; it's something Yoshi's mentioned wanting to address for 2.0. Although I have to say I dont recall ever being hit by a mob in Besieged or Campaign that I couldn't see on-screen. I also don't recall it being a major complaint among the players. Not saying it didn't happen, just that I don't recall it really being a major issue.

As far as being instanced or not being the issue, I think it can be fun or lousy whether it's instanced or non-instanced. My thing is mostly about them not (ab)using instancing to the point that activities that could (and arguably, should) be more about bringing players together in a community sense being instead separated into individual "bubbles". Something like Besieged or CB would not have been as fun as it was, on the scale that it was, if those events had been instanced and split up among smaller groups.

I agree, however both ofthem had their limits I believe Campaign was limited to 64 people (signing up to the NPC) and Beseiged was an instance similar on scale to Dynamis I suppose.

I do agree that the lack of large scale fights is disappointing but the instanced aspect of it isn't the issue really, if 6 full parties could enter the same hamlet fight it would be much better, I guess we can only hope they plan this for 2.0.

[MariyaShidou]

This.

I guess SE are just trolling us.

Realistically, front line would be archers. Until enemies get closer, Archers would be able to thin out the enemy rank. You only switch archers with other kind of troops when the distance is close.

[Jinko]

Realistically, front line would be archers. Until enemies get closer, Archers would be able to thin out the enemy rank. You only switch archers with other kind of troops when the distance is close.

Realistically Archers would be back line and at a higher altitude they can fire over the front lines.

Front lines should be lancers in theory.

[MariyaShidou]

Realistically Archers would be back line and at a higher altitude they can fire over the front lines.

Front lines should be lancers in theory.

You don't always have higher altitude to position your archers, hence why the Mongols archers fight with sword/spear as well, and they conquered the world.

[Preypacer]

This.

I guess SE are just trolling us.



I agree, however both ofthem had their limits I believe Campaign was limited to 64 people (signing up to the NPC) and Beseiged was an instance similar on scale to Dynamis I suppose.

I do agree that the lack of large scale fights is disappointing but the instanced aspect of it isn't the issue really, if 6 full parties could enter the same hamlet fight it would be much better, I guess we can only hope they plan this for 2.0.

Even still, 64 people in Campaign battle was still a good deal better than 8, though. Plus there were multiple CB's happening all the time in several different zones, so if you weren't at one, you could be at another. I know some people had their favorites.

I don't know if I like the idea of it being a requirement for full parties to go in. I kinda like the idea of it being x number of people total (similar to CB) and then let people group up if they want, etc. Though I suppose there might be people waiting to go in who would look for a group before-hand, kinda how they do with Besieged many times.

In any case, as long as it's kept more "open" and isn't instanced, I think that would be a huge improvement. Even if you can't or don't want to participate, it would be good fun to watch heh. CBs could be epic to check out sometimes. In Lineage 2, they have Broadcast Crystals for their sieges. Players can sit in town and watch a castle siege going on from a few different angles. Not as good (or dangerous) as being on the field, but you can see how things are going and it gets pretty epic sometimes.

I don't suggest a broadcast crystal for FFXIV, except for the arena type PvP when that's implemented; it's only necessary in L2 because if you're close enough to see the action in person, then you're on the siege field. And if you're on the siege field, you might be taken as a spy and dropped.