Dawntrail Armor designs

[FeyFavilla]

Fashion is 100% subjective.

That is fair, but visual cohesion is important in any game where immersion is a big factor. I will go as far as to say as the entirety of the new tech looking stuff being a mistake. It's not that you can't do technology in FFXIV, we have had plenty in the past, but usually it is still leaning on steampunk or fantastical elements. Putting something so hyper-futuristic in a, at its core, fantasy MMO is jarring to say the least. It looks stunning, in another game I would have adored solution none and the surrounding zones, but not for FFXIV. It just does not fit and throws me off completely seeing modern looking things. It all has its explanation in lore, so far so good, but it stands out like a sore thumb in the rest of the world. Same goes for the fashion. I know that some folks do enjoy it, but I think putting random, not-cohesive stuff in your MMO just because it is a hyped thing IRL currently is a mistake. Been saying that about a lot of the mounts as well. Adding shit that breaks immersion is not healthy for MMOs. There is a time and place for everything and this is just not it.

[Valence]

It just looks like PSO2 gear... if you ignore all the gacha outfit nonsense that game has, just the basic PSO2 aesthetic.

I mean everything we've had from raid gear since forever can be one way or another equated to "it just looks like basic X aesthetics".

I'm just annoyed with the regular john fantasy brains that keep dropping those threads just to paint everything that's not hardcore fantasy as "basic", "bland" or "slop".

That the art direction has lost all consistency is another problem though.

[Kozh]

That’s fair about Mayakov, I didn’t know.

And it’s still tropical oriented as an expac, I don’t know why you trying so hard to refuse that fact only because “other tropical countries/civilizations aren’t represented”. The foundation is there, there’s no need to get every tribes or people to make it fully “tropical”.

“Tropical” shouldn’t even be the right word, but the feeling of it is there. Dawntrail is definitely Mesoamerican inspired.

I'm not refusing anything. I just questioning your choice of word since you say "what do you expect from a tropical expansion", which has similar vibe to "all of asia..." (which asia?).

[vincexorcized]

I'm not refusing anything. I just questioning your choice of word since you say "what do you expect from a tropical expansion", which has similar vibe to "all of asia..." (which asia?).

Dude I said : tropical isn’t even the correct word. It’s a mood, a vibe. I nowhere talked about Asia either you little goober

[Kozh]

Dude I said : tropical isn’t even the correct word. It’s a mood, a vibe. I nowhere talked about Asia either you little goober

I was talking about your first post /shrug

And that asia part is analogy, kiddo

[Xieldras]

That is fair, but visual cohesion is important in any game where immersion is a big factor. I will go as far as to say as the entirety of the new tech looking stuff being a mistake. It's not that you can't do technology in FFXIV, we have had plenty in the past, but usually it is still leaning on steampunk or fantastical elements. Putting something so hyper-futuristic in a, at its core, fantasy MMO is jarring to say the least. It looks stunning, in another game I would have adored solution none and the surrounding zones, but not for FFXIV. It just does not fit and throws me off completely seeing modern looking things. It all has its explanation in lore, so far so good, but it stands out like a sore thumb in the rest of the world. Same goes for the fashion. I know that some folks do enjoy it, but I think putting random, not-cohesive stuff in your MMO just because it is a hyped thing IRL currently is a mistake. Been saying that about a lot of the mounts as well. Adding shit that breaks immersion is not healthy for MMOs. There is a time and place for everything and this is just not it.

Even the technologically-advanced civilizations in this game (Allagans, Garleans, 'Old Sharlayan', The Ancients, Lopporits) still retain a certain aesthetic in the glamour that doesn't look like streetwear. False Queen Sphene wore old Alexandrian clothing that looked more fantasy despite her lore. Solution Nine feels a bit like a long-term collab event (like FF15's) to me.

[Absurdity]

Even the technologically-advanced civilizations in this game (Allagans, Garleans, 'Old Sharlayan', The Ancients, Lopporits) still retain a certain aesthetic in the glamour that doesn't look like streetwear. False Queen Sphene wore old Alexandrian clothing that looked more fantasy despite her lore. Solution Nine feels a bit like a long-term collab event (like FF15's) to me.

Pretty much, Allag and Garlemald had a distinct look to them (and the Ironworks gear is just modified Garlean tech). Sure they were more sci-fi than the leather vests and jute potato bags the Eorzeans were wearing in ARR, but it looked like XIV's own spin on more technologically-advanced gear, unique to it's universe.
That has been almost completely lost in the newer stuff.

[FuturePastNow]

I really like the Neo Kingdom gear. Historia is good looking, too. Most of the sets from Second Walk are nice. There are plenty of Dawntrail armor sets I don't like, too, but that's purely subjective. If you want to claim that it's all bad, you're just wrong.

[Kelg]

Probably gonna make some folks angry but this aggressive push for modern street-wear is really offputting in the general setting. It clashes so hard with the OG sets from many years of past content. The occasional silly set here and there and some comfy basic clothes are nice but these extremely modern fashion/futuristic sets feel incredibly out of place, like a bad product ad. The latest PvP set is giving more Kingdom Hearts than FF.

A lot of people are tired of the streetwear. I don't mind them adding it really but I think they are going too hard in on it, and we have a real lack of good fantasy style sets so everytime I see them add more streetwear its a bit annoying because we miss out on a potential fantasy design. The casual stuff is not my style, and doesn't fit the style of the game's setting going by the story. It feels like gear designed for phantasy star instead of final fantasy and most of the sets look the same to me. I'm ready for Dawntrail to be over so they stop making every set look like this and go back to traditional fantasy gear designs hopefully, because this game does fantasy gear pretty well.

[Iscah]

I don't think "fantasy vs techwear" is even the 50/50 balance that should be struck, because there are so many different in-game cultures vying to be represented on the fantasy side of things. We also need more things that are suitable to give to upcoming settings and cultures, so we don't end up with a fifth culture having to share the Star Velvet mage robes as their traditional costume.