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  1. #71
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    I know, but you can always make a blind prog static or your own PF listing for it in week 2. I've even seen blind prog parties for old Arcadian Raid Tier 1 on PF during the evening.
    More often than not people will join blind prog and hint at how to do mechanics or nudge everyone else into a PF strat they've already done. Once strats begin to get adopted, it's nearly impossible to prog blind via PF. Even finding a static who specifically wants to prog blind is difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    You'd think this would be a perfect time to think about everything wrong with the raiding culture, if not the fights themselves, if its one big ball of FOMO anxiety where people struggle to find others to do the content with only 7 days after it drops.

    Instead of people asking "why is the pain slated for this date instead of another one" why not ask "why is this painful to do in the first place".
    Part of this FOMO reaction is due to the patches themselves taking so long. People are starved for content because they're otherwise bored. So when something new releases they rush to do it. This isn't unique to Savage nor raiding, but every piece of content in the game.

    Regardless, it isn't a struggle to find people to do the content with. It's finding people who deliberately want to restrict themselves by not looking up strats or going into PF and learning mechanics ahead, i.e. blind prog. Not to mention, every week gear power creeps Savage. M6S was a wall because not only did people struggle with adds, but they didn't have tome gear to muscle through the rather tight DPS check. That experience was largely non-existent by week 3-4 when people had several pieces of gear and/or weapons.
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  2. #72
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    I wouldn't mind if they delayed the Savage raids until Jan because of those holidays.

    But I feel they'd need to shuffle their stuff and release at least one optional content with 7.4.0 - like the Blue Mage update.
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  3. #73
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they delayed the Savage raids until Jan because of those holidays.

    But I feel they'd need to shuffle their stuff and release at least one optional content with 7.4.0 - like the Blue Mage update.
    It’s easy to delay Savage if thy want. The work will be done and it’s changing a release timer.

    Considering this is the last savage for at least 12 months, no need to rush.
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  4. #74
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    it doesn't though. the entire reason why the schedule was shifted from 4 months exactly to 4.5 months was because Yoshi-p wanted the devs to have time to unwind during the summer and at Christmas, so having Savage drop 2 days before Christmas where there could be a major bug that could potentially go unaddressed for days is something i think they'd want to avoid.
    They dropped Chaotic on Christmas Eve. It seems like they're not all going to be out right around that time. More likely New Year's is their major business holiday where businesses will be closed and the 23rd still gives them time before that.

    Quote Originally Posted by YumieYumiki View Post
    I don't think it works like that. There's (probably) no rule carved in a stone tablet somewhere that says that the time between patches must be fixed. They probably aim for a consistent time frame (just like they aim for a major patch every 4 month) but if they need some more weeks for it to be ready or if they need to move it to avoid clashing with the release of some other major game they will probably adjust the release week accordingly.
    One of the reasons people are so up in arms when all we have is the PLL part 1 release date is that SE is so consistent you can predict the patch schedule based on things like the PLL release dates. A week or two delay, maybe, but weeks would just be highly unusual for them.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    They dropped Chaotic on Christmas Eve. It seems like they're not all going to be out right around that time. More likely New Year's is their major business holiday where businesses will be closed and the 23rd still gives them time before that.



    One of the reasons people are so up in arms when all we have is the PLL part 1 release date is that SE is so consistent you can predict the patch schedule based on things like the PLL release dates. A week or two delay, maybe, but weeks would just be highly unusual for them.
    Chaotic is different from the Savage world race though. sure people rushed to do it blind week 1, but it was brand new content and the very first 24 hard mode alliance raid and it got conquered pretty quickly, but people weren't racing for it. People were still upset mind you, but it'd be a whole different ball game to have the world race start the week of Christmas, specifically 2 days before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    Chaotic is different from the Savage world race though. sure people rushed to do it blind week 1, but it was brand new content and the very first 24 hard mode alliance raid and it got conquered pretty quickly, but people weren't racing for it. People were still upset mind you, but it'd be a whole different ball game to have the world race start the week of Christmas, specifically 2 days before.
    the race will be over before christmas day.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    Chaotic is different from the Savage world race though. sure people rushed to do it blind week 1, but it was brand new content and the very first 24 hard mode alliance raid and it got conquered pretty quickly, but people weren't racing for it. People were still upset mind you, but it'd be a whole different ball game to have the world race start the week of Christmas, specifically 2 days before.
    It may make it difficult for some but the race is over in less than a day isn't it? Wasn't this last one like 13 or 14 hours? Or was it less? I didn't really watch the entire thing.
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  8. #78
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    maybe they'll see the feedback so they gonna release the raids on patchday... but oh wait, the players wouldnt be happy with that either.
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    Viina Sixstep
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    Shiva
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    Why is the only point of discussion here it releasing on Christmas or being delayed?

    You are too used to them releasing content and snails pace.
    It's already 4.5 to 5 months per patch.

    If anything they should release it a week or 2 early.
    Don't care about their laziness and for sure they don't need every single day to push out the usual content with 1-1.5 extra months of time for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViinaS View Post
    Why is the only point of discussion here it releasing on Christmas or being delayed?

    You are too used to them releasing content and snails pace.
    It's already 4.5 to 5 months per patch.

    If anything they should release it a week or 2 early.
    Don't care about their laziness and for sure they don't need every single day to push out the usual content with 1-1.5 extra months of time for it.
    If they release it early, we get more bugs. That's the tradeoff.
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