"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[NanaWiloh]

Nah, they don't outpace the healing. I know this, 'cause I've healed it with 2 dps when a tank had to brb. You can outheal it, but it's just a matter of when your mana runs out if you don't have dps with you.

I meant if you by yourself as in No dps or tank. I know its do able if some dps are present as your not eating all the damage all yourself.

[JMadFour]

eh. whatever. I've never been the YPYT type when I tank in roulettes.

I'm more of a "Yeah whatever, I'll just pull the mobs off you when I get there" guy,

people who run ahead and pull everything while spamming their jump button are kinda annoying, but not actually annoying enough to make a scene about, to be totally honest. it's far too easy to just rip aggro from them to waste time arguing about it.

they wanna round up 3 rooms of mobs, that's just less work for me. /shrug

(also, the jump spamming is waaaaay more annoying than the actual pulling, if I'm gonna keep it a buck)

[BlisteringFrost]

eh. whatever. I've never been the YPYT type when I tank in roulettes.

I'm more of a "Yeah whatever, I'll just pull the mobs off you when I get there" guy,

people who run ahead and pull everything while spamming their jump button are kinda annoying, but not actually annoying enough to make a scene about, to be totally honest. it's far too easy to just rip aggro from them to waste time arguing about it.

they wanna round up 3 rooms of mobs, that's just less work for me. /shrug

(also, the jump spamming is waaaaay more annoying than the actual pulling, if I'm gonna keep it a buck)

Yeah exactly, you're pulling it, so you're already tanking it until it's caught in my AOE. I don't need to have the mentality of it, because to be so dead-set on speeding through the dungeon, you have to possess the mentality to be willing to rush so far ahead so quickly to begin with lmao

[MayuAmakura]

eh. whatever. I've never been the YPYT type when I tank in roulettes.

I'm more of a "Yeah whatever, I'll just pull the mobs off you when I get there" guy,

people who run ahead and pull everything while spamming their jump button are kinda annoying, but not actually annoying enough to make a scene about, to be totally honest. it's far too easy to just rip aggro from them to waste time arguing about it.

they wanna round up 3 rooms of mobs, that's just less work for me. /shrug

(also, the jump spamming is waaaaay more annoying than the actual pulling, if I'm gonna keep it a buck)

Let me guess they are playing as Miqote? It's usually them who spam jumps.

On a side note, letting someone pull is completely normal for me because that's the way to help and do it. Though I can't remember when it was the last time someone did that because I go super fast as a tank that I'm way ahead of everyone.

[LukaRoselia]

Dps should respect the tank and not pull either. It's just basic ettique imo. That being said, I think both kinds of behaviour are stupid personally. I don't really like it when dps pull when I'm tanking but I just get on with it.

[Canadane]

Dps should respect the tank and not pull either.

Tanks are not the de facto puller. They are usually the puller, yes, but anyone can pull.
There isn't any etiquette to respect here, other than the roles as assigned.

when I'm tanking but I just get on with it.

This is the ideal, yes.

[TBerry]

But yes, the tank is just an NPC and there is no fault of your own that YPYT is a thing in the first place.

Tanks are not the de facto puller. They are usually the puller, yes, but anyone can pull.
There isn't any etiquette to respect here, other than the roles as assigned.



This is the ideal, yes.

There is etiquette but you choose to ignore it.

[Supersnow845]

Yes it is wholly not my fault if you have a pointless ego trip and decide to engage in YPYT

When I tank if a DPS pulls for me I pull it off them and keep going, their HP being an effective piece of mitigation for me and all the movement still being maintained if I miss something

YPYT has zero benefits and is just an ego boost for no benefit and there is no etiquette other than “don’t let someone else die because you went on an ego trip”

[TBerry]

Pulling as DPS has zero benefits and is just an ego boost that doesn't make the w2w faster than pulling as a tank, especially when the tank is capable.
It's just the DPS abusing range and gap closers.

Stop trying to reduce the Tank's role for your personal gain.

Any and all "arguments" DPS presented so far have no substance except blaming the tank.

[Supersnow845]

Using the DPS’s health as mitigation is a benefit

Using the DPS mitigation to free up your own mitigation is a benefit

If a DPS pulls first the mobs group up allowing the tank to easily rip agro in one shot rather than running up first and missing spread out mobs that then fall behind. That grouping ability is a benefit. It also means the tank doesn’t have to waste GCD’s shield lobbing everything that is spread out and can just pick everything up in one shot

Healers generate extra resources off DPS taking extra damage such as SGE generating more toxicon stacks by pre shielding the tank and DPS, that is a benefit

It gives others a say in the overall speed of the run. A run shouldn’t be 5 minutes longer because the tank refuses to sprint. That is a benefit

Like if your first response to a DPS pulling isn’t to throw a tantrum there is plenty of benefits you can draw from it.