"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[MicahZerrshia]

It is amusing each time this thread gets necro'd again and again.

A tanks pulling aggro anyway if you pull the mob towards their AoE. IF you're out in the middle of no where, or attacking mobs not pulled and not bringing them? I mean... ya... you're tanking if the tank doesn't see this or the group has moved forwards.

YPYT ppl generally do not aoe and will go out of their way not to pull hate off you even if you are standing on top of them.

[VeyaAkemi]

Y'now, as someone who Tanks fairly frequently, I basically do every roulette on a different role, I have never experienced a DPS pulling ahead of me, maybe it's just the way I carry myself, sprinting between pulls, gap closer to the nearest mob as soon as they come in range assuming the skill is available, wtw unless I have a damn good reason to not, so on, there is very little room for a DPS to get ahead of me unless they are extremely dedicated to doing so, and even if they do, I will be so close behind them getting slightly ahead will not mean much, so I usually have a hard time understanding "yeah I am always going as fast as I can and they are still pulling ahead"... my brother in Hydaelyn... how?

Inversely, when I am on DPS, I had a lot of situations where I had Tanks get mad at me for running ahead, not pulling ahead, I was moving slightly ahead of the Tank and, at least visually, "leading the pack", I'd even stop for a moment to let the Tank move ahead when we got near mobs, but also there are times where I will zone out and move to the next pack without looking at the Tank, when that happens it is never a big deal, just pop Arm's Length, and deliver to the Tank a pack of pre-Slow'd mobs, if the Tank is somehow still far, I just run back and gap close to them, you see, I have this really silly set up on my HUD that lets me gap close to allies without having to target them, but it has improved my experience with ally gap closers a lot, it rarely gets used in combat, and I need to click it to work, but it works wonders, as a result I will always be directly next to the Tank and way ahead of the mobs, giving the ample opportunity to grab them without them posing any further threat to me. If they still refuse even after that, well, I think they made their intent clear.

[Grimforth]

Lotta assumptions being made here in apropos of nothing.

Curious behavior.

Not an assumption at all. Your own comments are you literally snitching on yourself.

[Sunhwapark]

It's a weird power trip mindset where the person desperately wants to be the shining protagonist of some story and the other party members are just background characters that cater to the whims of the tank, can't blame them if they are playing warrior though, they literally are 3 roles moulded into 1 job.

[Komarimono]

YPYT ppl generally do not aoe and will go out of their way not to pull hate off you even if you are standing on top of them.

Called me crazy, but aren't tanks wall to wall pulling anyway? If they are attacking one mob and running, just boot the tank.

[Arrius]

Called me crazy, but aren't tanks wall to wall pulling anyway? If they are attacking one mob and running, just boot the tank.

ARR dungeons still have a few odd routes and ways others tend to go.
For instance, in Qarn it is normal now to ignore picking up the statues for the room before the final boss, yet some might still attempt to walk into the rooms of those and trigger a aggro.
There's also Cutter's Cry with their other ways around the underground lakes, I believe.

[Komarimono]

ARR dungeons still have a few odd routes and ways others tend to go.
For instance, in Qarn it is normal now to ignore picking up the statues for the room before the final boss, yet some might still attempt to walk into the rooms of those and trigger a aggro.
There's also Cutter's Cry with their other ways around the underground lakes, I believe.

If in ARR dungeons, you'd not want to pull as DPS anyway. Tanks normally are lacking their easy buttons and just have base mitigation tools. Had a zealous bard kept pulling packs to a tank in one, who was out of mitigation from previous pulls, resulted in said tank dying.

Ya, you can skip many things, since they re-did a few especially for Trusts etc. But 50 and below, some even 60 and below, Tanks can struggle if pull too many if not an experienced tank.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Plenty people with that crappy mindset showing their faces in the new player etiquette thread. Baffling people don't think blatant griefing is a problem. Glad I don't have to deal with such people.

[Asari5]

arent 120 pages enough to proof we wont ever come to one conclusion everyone agrees on?

[Elephantality]

If a DPS or healer pulls in front of you as a tank, refusing to grab aggro and watching them die (or not; sometimes the healer or DPS can survive easily) is just petty. Tanks shouldn't do this!

I agree.

Call me old school, but it's a good thing. If a DPS goes ahead and pulls things when I'm not ready to grab them, then it's on that player to handle them until I can.

For me, I'll get to them as soon as I can. Generally, I haven't had a problem, and whenever someone has an enemy I aoe, no problem. However, I do think an issue is when DPS pull and don't bring them back to the tank. Hasn't happened to me, but has happened to my friend, and they were running towards them. I mean, to me, DPS should bring it back to the tank if the tank already has enemies because that means, more enemies to group up, more damage to spread on all enemies, less time spent right?