New Nintendo patent could banish summons in FFXIV

[RedLolly]

Pocketpair did perform updates that modified a few things that Nintendo was seething at.

Curious if it's the concept of a mounted animal/creature that Nintendo will fight about (h...horses...) when the whole thing started with how Legends Arceus had you automatically swapping between the five Pokemon that had different movement methods you could ride.

But also there is a patent troll that has prevented all games from having interactive menus or minigames on loading screens for decades now.

And honestly if Mihoyo starts getting litigious with Nintendo or vice-versa and the patents get wilder, that only hurts the industry.

[Kazeshindo]

No it won't. The concept of summoning in video games has been around for far too long. As soon as it's challenged in a court it will fold up in a matter of minutes.

[Thaciscokidd]

This feels awfully like Namco's Mini game patent and Warner Brothers' patent on the Nemesis System. If Nintendo throws enough money at this other companies will just avoid it rather that waste profit by fighting it.

[Reimmi]

Nintendo made this patent to bully indie devs, they won't pursue it against big companies like square/blizzard.
Basically, they're terrified a palworld will happen again, so they're making an example out of them since Palworld is made by a japanese company (to my knowledge) they can just bully them to stop development

[ShadowyZero]

hilarious that nintendo thinks it owns monster summoning lol it existed way before their pokemon did even before videogames were a thing XD

[Cidel]

This whole thing has looked more like them throwing everything within their legal power at the wall and hoping something sticks instead of actually making a good game amid competition. And muddying their face in the process.

I seriously doubt they will use this against big established companies like SE; this is clearly done in response to Palworld's burgeoning popularity. That's their primary target.

[Supersnow845]

Does the patent include exclude of mostly not reference “supporting entities”

Like as an obvious example eos/selene are summoned entities that “fight” with you, but their purpose is purely supportive but if that’s a violation would it even extend to totems, like is lilybell a violation

I’m not dooming, patent legality is not a remote specialisation of mine, I’m just trying to understand

[Larirawiel]

Does the patent include exclude of mostly not reference “supporting entities”

Like as an obvious example eos/selene are summoned entities that “fight” with you, but their purpose is purely supportive but if that’s a violation would it even extend to totems, like is lilybell a violation

I’m not dooming, patent legality is not a remote specialisation of mine, I’m just trying to understand

Do not be afraid. Usually you cannot get a patent for something, which existed before the patent application. It is called "prior art". And almost every MMORPG has a pet class, and the pets can fight for/with you. I wonder, that Nintendo got the patent granted. Maybe the the employees in the US patent office are not very competent. Or they get money if they grant a patent to someone.



Cheers

[Thaciscokidd]

Do not be afraid. Usually you cannot get a patent for something, which existed before the patent application. It is called "prior art". And almost every MMORPG has a pet class, and the pets can fight for/with you. I wonder, that Nintendo got the patent granted. Maybe the the employees in the US patent office are not very competent. Or they get money if they grant a patent to someone.

This is what is strange and concerning. "Prior Art" should have killed this patent in the water and/or any competent examiner doing there job should have. "Prior Art" is what keeps them from patenting such broad things not protect past stuff. The fact that the patent went though and got secured is concerning.

Even if they chose to just pick Pocketpair to enforce this patent with, then Pocketpair could (and probably would be in there best interest but very detrimental to game makers) to point at ALL of the other games where "The player can perform an input command to make a “sub character” appear" and drag bigger players into the fight.

[Jason_Ashford]

Nintendo just got a patent approved that basically describes how to summon creatures to fight for you...

https://www.windowscentral.com/gamin...dreds-of-games

the patent was filed in america only. they know they couldn't pull that BS in Japan because Square Enix, Capcom, and every other major company who has mounts, summons, etc. in their games would be pounding on Nintendo's door with a countersuit.