Give MSQ skippers a SKIP IT ALL button already

[Valence]

May I remind people that this thread was made in reaction to the latest interview that was published where the producer stated that they had to take into account story skippers when designing the msq? Didn't it occur to any of you that maybe that's because they're taking story skippers into consideration when creating the main story that we're also missing out on a ton more interesting sections like the mini investigation of the last patch (7.3), and arguably the only genuinely good part of that patch story to boot? And if that's not the case, then I'm again, just reacting to what the producer said and taking it at face value.

In fine, I always think I've seen it all with certain bigoted af segments of the community, but this thread still managed to surprise me. Telling people how the game should be played and enjoyed and that the way they do it has to be the only way is frankly completely unhinged on its own, but also failing to realize that pushing the skippers away from the story design instead of continuing to take them into consideration would literally benefit everyone or at least not affect msq enjoyers in the slightest, is also indicative of nastier agendas (actually hating on a certain subset of the game population enough to just want to see them gone, even though the proposal would literally not affect anybody negatively).

Yoshi P should not be talking off the top of his head, he is really kicking a hornets nest.

Square is going to retire him eventually it sounds like...

If there is a story skip button then they lose out on the writing they boast about very detrimental to this MMO this sounds like they are planning to drop writing quality.

I mean if story skippers can skip it they have to consider that everyone will skip so if less people are seeing the story less thought has to be put into it.
Why would people that went through the story up to this point waste their time doing the up coming msq?

That's a Stupid idea... very stupid.... the only skip people should get is being able to progress up to the current xpack.

Call the idea stupid if you like, in the meantime your idea that everybody would skip makes zero sense: if a valuable chunk of the players like the story, as evidenced by all the bigots in this thread or people like myself, why would they skip? I sure ain't skipping even the very mediocre, lacklustre story of Dawntrail (I skipped nothing and I keep talking to all the NPCs, do all the sidequests...).

If they skip then the story failed to grab their attention, that's about it. They're already skipping anyway, how would condensing all the skips into one button per story segment (until the next solo duty / dungeon / event) would be any different?

[Aviatorhead]

Call the idea stupid if you like, in the meantime your idea that everybody would skip makes zero sense: if a valuable chunk of the players like the story, as evidenced by all the bigots in this thread or people like myself, why would they skip? I sure ain't skipping even the very mediocre, lacklustre story of Dawntrail (I skipped nothing and I keep talking to all the NPCs, do all the sidequests...).

If they skip then the story failed to grab their attention, that's about it. They're already skipping anyway, how would condensing all the skips into one button per story segment (until the next solo duty / dungeon / event) would be any different?

Because the devs want people to buy the story skip if they're skipping. They want people to either pay for the skip or pay for a sub as long as possible while they grind through msq, and if msq gets easy/timely to skip without paying then they lose that revenue source.

*I dont like that they do this and I think they shouldn't sell any sort of skip but that's sadly how it is

[theunhappypotato]

Of course I know you can skip cutscenes, it's just... You didn't get curious what you were missing out on? Not even once?

honstely i played till mid HW and then i just got bored with the msq, forked over 20 euros and got spit out at endwalker and it was honestly the best decision i ever did when it comes to enjoyment of this game, dont get me wrong i love a good story but ff14's story is told in such a boring way i just dont wanna put up with it

[Science66]

The story is an economic decision. They sell skip potions. Simple as that.

[UkcsAlias]

You didn't get curious what you were missing out on? Not even once?

The biggest issue i have here is that you are often demanded to rush the msq to unlock the next extreme trial.

Day 1 blind experiences are unique, as even on day 2 people will already start talking about guides or optimal strategies they 'heard' (half of the people just watch the guide). Even later on day 1 this already starts to become the behaviour.

So yeah, this realy will get people towards skipping the msq. I would at least delay the extreme trial by 1 week to give some time to follow the story. Just like they did with savages (and im aware that this would then mean a 2 week delay for those, which to me is still fine).

And yes, afterward then going back to follow the story feels like a bad idea as you had a massive spoiler already given to you.

[StormChase]

The biggest issue i have here is that you are often demanded to rush the msq to unlock the next extreme trial.

Day 1 blind experiences are unique, as even on day 2 people will already start talking about guides or optimal strategies they 'heard' (half of the people just watch the guide). Even later on day 1 this already starts to become the behaviour.

So yeah, this realy will get people towards skipping the msq. I would at least delay the extreme trial by 1 week to give some time to follow the story. Just like they did with savages (and im aware that this would then mean a 2 week delay for those, which to me is still fine).

And yes, afterward then going back to follow the story feels like a bad idea as you had a massive spoiler already given to you.

Yeah, I'd delay it by a week so people aren't encouraged to rush.

[theunhappypotato]

Yeah, I'd delay it by a week so people aren't encouraged to rush.

mhm yea give us even less todo on patchday

[Bryson]

Of course I know you can skip cutscenes, it's just... You didn't get curious what you were missing out on? Not even once?

literally never once in my 12+ years of playing. My sub has been active since Aug 2013. I couldn't care less about the story.. I play solely because it's an mmorpg.

[Bryson]

Knowing players won't give future MSQ the time of day doesn't exactly give them an incentive to improve their writing.

How's that functionally different than selling msq skips and allowing people to mash esc key to skip 99% of all cutscenes?

You can't trick people into caring about something they don't. If they care, they follow the story.. if they don't.. they won't.

[TaleraRistain]

I think it's perfectly fine if someone uses the tools available to skip the MSQ if they choose. What is not fine is wanting more tools. I've played MMOs since 1999 EverQuest. One thing I have always appreciated about this game was the design decision that the main storyline would be the limiter for everything. All optional content branches off from it. Really no other MMO does this, even those who are more story-focused. It's a uniqueness that XIV has that pays respect to its roots as a Final Fantasy game. There's really no reason to make it any easier to skip than they already do. If someone doesn't want to manually skip through content, they pay for the ability. That's a fair balance and follows the game design.