Official Statement: Regarding Mod Usage and Culture

[DPZ2]

I was thinking exactly this. SE had to spend 0 dollars to have it taken down. All they had to do is have one of their lawyers send a routine cease and desist.

If true it makes the letter actually quite manipulative, giving the impression SE cares about in game accomplishments and protecting minors. That is just objectively not true.

Where did you get that impression? You read a cease-and-desist letter? A legal filing? Or are you referring to the linked statement, which is a reiteration of a viewpoint as old as the game?

[DivineP]

I made a post in someones topic a few days ago how Yoshi is not adressing the issue formally and splitting the mod and none mod communities. Its somewhere around here. Guess I was right.

On topic: It's about time Yoshi made an official statement that is written about mods. Everyone with a brain could see where it was heading with all the screenshots of Gposes flying around the Internet of suggestible content making FF14 look suspect.

It's nice to see the community has read and understood Yoshis message even though I saw this coming a mile off.

Looks like he caught it just in time.

First rule of fight club is?

[Turtledeluxe]

Where did you get that impression? You read a cease-and-desist letter? A legal filing? Or are you referring to the linked statement, which is a reiteration of a viewpoint as old as the game?

The creator of Mare received a cease and desist letter. He confirmed it. As in he, the dev whose personal information was indeed on the github and patreon, which he also admitted wss a mistake.

Is this letter as old as the game? Yoshi P has cited inflation and online protection acts before ? That would just make it mean he's been a con this whole time.

It would kinda make sense to be honest, why he seems to only vaguely know what is happening at any given moment and why his letters sometimes really don't make any sense. Sometimes I think he flies around the world doing interviews while his team crafts male bunny boys he later admitted to having no idea about.

Also this letter is not a "rule of fight club" letter. Its a firm stance against mods like Mare, but without the action to back it up and a "don't talk about fight club" thrown in. In other words its just for show and nothing has really changed. Very political actually.

[DivineP]

Bravo, Yoshi P.

Well said.
Well worded.
Everything was crystal clear.

It's about time. I have been watching the communities that are pro mod and those that are pro ToS go at eachother like crazy over the years.

Hopefully this shuts everyone up!

It is certainly a clear statement! And far outweighs the millions of live letter links that were tongue in cheek about stuff.

No wonder it got out of hand with that one specific mod.

Good for Yoshi daring to put himself out there (and could be used as a sheild against any legal action "Well here's my post I told them not to, go after the mod developers")

But still good for him doing that on the actual FF14 news posts which can't be twisted by media outlets because ppl can't be bothered looking for a specific phrase in a live letter years ago at god knows what time stamp.

This is clear, precise and to the point.

He needs to do more of this.

[DPZ2]

Also this letter is not a "rule of fight club" letter. Its a firm stance against mods like Mare, but without the action to back it up and a "don't talk about fight club" thrown in. In other words its just for show and nothing has really changed. Very political actually.

So, not about the statement quoted in the original post? Got it.

My statement is acknowledging the reiteration of a point of view by Square Enix about mods that is as old as the game.

A cease-and-desist letter is a polite way of saying "cease, or we sue". It is a warning prelude to a legal action. You'd prefer the originator of the mod in question go to court? You started a GoFundMe for them yet?

[hydralus]

So modders did it to themselves, which nearly everyone already knew. Apparently it's extremely difficult to not use the ffxiv tag when uploading your in-game porn to twitter.

[Swordsman]

Overall, I consider Yoshi's statement to be a win. Sure I find it lame that one of SE's reasons for banning the mod was because it reduced the profitability of the cash shop. But the fact is that the mod enabled users to show adult content to anybody else using the mod including minors. Unregulated pornographic content distributed nearly without limitation is bound to encounter certain legal obstacles depending on location, so good on you SE for stepping up and taking the laws of customer countries into consideration.

[DivineP]

Overall, I consider Yoshi's statement to be a win. Sure I find it lame that one of SE's reasons for banning the mod was because it reduced the profitability of the cash shop. But the fact is that the mod enabled users to show adult content to anybody else using the mod including minors. Unregulated pornographic content distributed nearly without limitation is bound to encounter certain legal obstacles depending on location, so good on you SE for stepping up and taking the laws of customer countries into consideration.

Completely agree with this.

This mod has been in circulation for what 3 years? It shares mods that ppl use to run around with massive breasts, arse and genitalia? What is this game rated again?

I bet many dread to think.. but you've most likely used this mod with a MINOR. That is the sad truth.

Oops..

[Elephantality]

Yoshi P doesn't care what you do to your local computer. But they don't want you messing with other people's computers.

I think this is the most important thing there. Also, I think Yoshi P's post was sensible.

[Yumarox]

Personally I do not find anything wrong with what was said around the cash shop, like a few others on this thread. If you do not want to support it don't buy from it, but do not try and have your cake and eat it too by modding those items for yourself for free. Making cash shop items an off limits thing for even mods seems like more than a reasonable request also things like ultimate items add to that list as well. These both seem fair and I know I have experinced a few people say smugly how ultimate weapons don't matter if they can mod them in. Having these things as off limits is fair and reasonable.