Stop forcing female clothes on me

[Valkyrie-Veil]

So im forced to run around in my default underwear and sandals because there is nothing new to wear thats not a tanga or croptop?

Please look at the glam sets released lately. The new PVP Trophy Crystal sets for example and tell me there is a masculine looking option.

Did your old clothes get thrown in the trash when the new stuff got released? It’s ok that not every update will have something you like. That’s just life.

[YukioKobayashi]

Did your old clothes get thrown in the trash when the new stuff got released? It’s ok that not every update will have something you like. That’s just life.

Means I have to glam 4+ year old stuff so the bunny femboys are getting their 20th crop top this expantion. Is that fair?
Dont get me wrong. I dont want the feminine options to be removed. I want masculine options that are not locked to roles without having to wait years.

[Rinoa_353]

Means I have to glam 4+ year old stuff so the bunny femboys are getting their 20th crop top this expantion. Is that fair?
Dont get me wrong. I dont want the feminine options to be removed. I want masculine options that are not locked to roles without having to wait years.

I wish they would unlock the class restrictions of older gear like they used to do in ARR and HW but stopped in StB. It allowed you to wear any gear on any class so you could glam healer gear as a tank and so on.

[Rithy255]

Do people genuinely care about what others wear in a video game?

No one is forcing anyone to wear gearsets you don't want to wear, having the option for men to wear feminine things or women to wear masc things is fine and doesn't effect you in at all, it's a Option you don't have to wear a pretty pink princess dress to complete the msq or something so literally no one is forcing female clothes on anyone.

Like do we not have better things to care about...? how does seeing a man in a dress bother people so much these days? I don't know like maybe not everything is meant to appeal to you and that's fine... Just because your a masc man I know this might be a surprise but it doesn't mean the world revolves around you, theirs other people who like other things such as pretty dresses and stuff, ff14 also offers people some self expression so it's nice to let people express themselves. Further more theirs already plenty of masc gear in game and likely more to come it's not like we have a lack of options.

I don't know, it's just tiring to hear this sentiment constantly, let people be happy instead of dragging everyone down to be miserable like you lol.

[BlisteringFrost]

That is correct. The problem is not the existence of crop tops and tangas. The problem that has been addressed multiple times in this thread is the absence of alternatives for players who are looking for a different look, suiting characters that lean into a masculine style. We just want to get something nice for the guys, that's all.

Do you really even know what you want? Like, sincerely. Do you?

We have tuxedos. Butler suits. Wife beaters. Casual modernistic wear. Like.... We have masculine and feminine clothing. Plenty of it, already. What in Hydalaen's name are you all asking for exactly?

[yesnt]

Do people genuinely care about what others wear in a video game?

No one is forcing anyone to wear gearsets you don't want to wear, having the option for men to wear feminine things or women to wear masc things is fine and doesn't effect you in at all, it's a Option you don't have to wear a pretty pink princess dress to complete the msq or something so literally no one is forcing female clothes on anyone.

Like do we not have better things to care about...? how does seeing a man in a dress bother people so much these days? I don't know like maybe not everything is meant to appeal to you and that's fine... Just because your a masc man I know this might be a surprise but it doesn't mean the world revolves around you, theirs other people who like other things such as pretty dresses and stuff, ff14 also offers people some self expression so it's nice to let people express themselves. Further more theirs already plenty of masc gear in game and likely more to come it's not like we have a lack of options.

I don't know, it's just tiring to hear this sentiment constantly, let people be happy instead of dragging everyone down to be miserable like you lol.

You make it sound like OP said they don't want you to wear dresses. It's not about other people's choices, it's about OPs desire for masculine glam. Why do so many shit on this simple request and make it about their own style?

I get it, more diversity means more happy players. I'm not against it, but I wish I had at least an option. It's insufferable to see certain outfits or even raid glamour created for female characters and just slapped onto males. I dont want to dress my character feminine, please give us better options. Thanks.

[yesnt]

Do you really even know what you want? Like, sincerely. Do you?

We have tuxedos. Butler suits. Wife beaters. Casual modernistic wear. Like.... We have masculine and feminine clothing. Plenty of it, already. What in Hydalaen's name are you all asking for exactly?

Those are... super outdated, tho? Also, I have already said in this thread which recently implemented glam I liked and which I did not like, you can scroll back if you care.

[BlisteringFrost]

Those are... super outdated, tho? Also, I have already said in this thread which recently implemented glam I liked and which I did not like, you can scroll back if you care.

I don't because, as you're aware, it just reiterates my point. If you want a wife beater, say, just for example here, then go get one of the 5 we already have. SE has no reason to care to make another because 10 players petitioned for it. That's why I asked "Do ya'll even know what it is you actually want?" because just saying "GIMME LESS GIRL CLOTHES" -- going off just the title here -- does not help you. And it certainly doesn't tell the artists what they could work on when they're given the time to. It doesn't.

[yesnt]

I don't because, as you're aware, it just reiterates my point. If you want a wife beater, say, just for example here, then go get one of the 5 we already have. SE has no reason to care to make another because 10 players petitioned for it. That's why I asked "Do ya'll even know what it is you actually want?" because just saying "GIMME LESS GIRL CLOTHES" -- going off just the title here -- does not help you. And it certainly doesn't tell the artists what they could work on when they're given the time to. It doesn't.

I want masculine glam that shows the shape of my male character, not those huge jackets that turn him into the shape of a tall toddler, if that helps.

Besides, I am not a gear designer, it is not my job to come up with my own ideas and if you've worked in design (or any kind of product development), you'd be aware that customers do not need to be this specific. It is the job of the company to listen to feedback and find out themselves via research and testing what's needed to improve the service.

Are you a gear designer working for the company or why exactly are you so invested in this discussion as you don't seem to care? Because if so, you are doing a poor job at research. I genuinely don't understand why you are here.

[Valkyrie-Veil]

Means I have to glam 4+ year old stuff so the bunny femboys are getting their 20th crop top this expantion. Is that fair?
Dont get me wrong. I dont want the feminine options to be removed. I want masculine options that are not locked to roles without having to wait years.

That’s a valid point. I don’t think things are quite that dire, but I can understand the frustration of feeling like none of the new clothes in recent history are for you.

Agreed on removing role restrictions from all glamor. It’s about time to let us glam however we want with whatever we want.