So SE has officially stated their MMO profits have tanked.

[LyrisAdamanteia]

A lot of people in this thread just looking at numbers without the context. The context being that its YoY, that is the numbers are compared to the same time last year. What happened the same time last year? We had a major expansion release. This year? We have a patch release. Of course the numbers aren't going to be growing, its typical for mmos to lose profitability and playerbase over a patch cycle only to rebound when the big expansion comes out. We all know that one player who unsubs as soon as the expansion is done and then you don't see them until a month before the new one when they rush through the patch content. Especially for a game like this that's dependent on msq players.

[Jeeqbit]

A lot of people in this thread just looking at numbers without the context. The context being that its YoY, that is the numbers are compared to the same time last year. What happened the same time last year? We had a major expansion release.

You're not looking at the context either. The context is Endwalker's population (on Lucky Bancho) was well over 1.2 million and this did not get lower even during patch lulls. So at minimum, Dawntrail should be 1.2 million duing patch lulls, if not more since an expansion's baseline usually grows by at least 200,000, which would put us at 1.4 mil.

Instead, we're at 900,000 because people are disappointed. My whole explanation of it is at https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6735003

And the chart with data that I made in Google Docs shows we are at Shadowbringers levels and that this is unprecedented:


You have to go back to 2020 or 2021 to see levels this low. This is true for the Steam stats, the Lucky Bancho stats and the Achievement Hunter stats.