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  1. #21
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    Altina_Orion's Avatar
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    Altina Orion
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Being new doesn't give you the right to Tank. If you want to tank then hold agro. Just because they are a mentor doesn't mean that they want to tank or hand off main tank. The world doesn't revolve around you.
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  2. #22
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    All_Nonsense's Avatar
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    Neo Bird
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Being new doesn't give you the right to Tank. If you want to tank then hold agro. Just because they are a mentor doesn't mean that they want to tank or hand off main tank. The world doesn't revolve around you.
    Sprout: "Is it ok if I tank?" <-- Asking permission, showing a genuine interest in learning their role, conceding the lead to the mentor as the mentor can simply say "no" if they want to
    You: "THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU. STOP QUEUING FOR SHIVA EXTREME I HAD TO TAKE A 30 MINUTE TIMER "

    This really is the best community in the entire gaming industry :3
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  3. #23
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    Sprout: "Is it ok if I tank?" <-- Asking permission, showing a genuine interest in learning their role, conceding the lead to the mentor as the mentor can simply say "no" if they want to
    You: "THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU. STOP QUEUING FOR SHIVA EXTREME I HAD TO TAKE A 30 MINUTE TIMER "

    This really is the best community in the entire gaming industry :3
    I dont care about bad game design, OT role is usually garbage. If queued as a tank to DF, I want to do tanking, not blue dps, so I will try to do my best to hold the MT role.
    If some one wants to MT, but can't, they can do premades with NN, FC, randoms in lumsa, its MMO game.
    I have no problems to join PF like these just to giggle how new players gonna fail.
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    Last edited by Remolia; 07-18-2025 at 02:51 AM.

  4. #24
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    and then people wonder why I say ff14 community is worst the WOW community x)
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  5. #25
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    Alyko Cautes
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 53
    They really need to change the icon from a crown to a watering can to emphasize this point.
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  6. #26
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I usually join trials and normal raids with my stance off (or the game does it with level sync) and give my co-tank a chance to stance up and grab the boss if they like. If not, I'll stance up and get the fight going. I love when a baby tank wants to tank. Absolutely, little sprout, this is your time to shine.

    If I'm going to grab aggro with my rotation, then I just shirk or stance dance. Bit trickier in alliance raids but then I just stance dance if I wasn't the one that grabbed the boss so if MT dies nothing goes to eat my party if one of my dps happens to be high up on the list.

    I generally try to avoid provoke wars because it's not really productive to the run and unfair to the rest of the party or raid. If I gave them the chance, they didn't take it, I initiated and THEN they want to voke, though? Nah, we're at war then.

    I like to keep my crown on precisely so I can be an example as mentioned in the OP. Mentors get a bad rap, and sometimes it's deserved. I try to be the example to show we're not all like that. Also I make mistakes and derp and I want people to know if even a mentor can mess up, it's okay if they might mess up, too.
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  7. #27
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    They really need to change the icon from a crown to a watering can to emphasize this point.
    omg yes!!! i would love that not gonna lie I)
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  8. #28
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    BigCheez's Avatar
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Most people don't use chat for anything other than a cursory "o/" and "gg". They probably didn't even notice you said anything.

    Getting upset and posting on the forums because someone didn't let you main tank a normal raid is just silly IMO.
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  9. #29
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    and then people wonder why I say ff14 community is worst the WOW community x)
    ofc it is. We have Blacklist that allows to hide characters, while WoW, and many other MMOs does not (which says a lot about player base).

    We have toxic positivity, or else people gonna threat you with ToS and Reports on left and right.

    We can't get any public channels, with special themes/topics. All we have is NN, that is being used as these channels, and then people complain that NN is being misused, and awful linkshells with awful functionality and headache to moderate, if u have more than 10 players, where it just more ez just to go to a discord channel.

    Ofc some people gonna get mentor just to get access the only one global chat in the game.
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  10. #30
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Being new doesn't give you the right to Tank. If you want to tank then hold agro. Just because they are a mentor doesn't mean that they want to tank or hand off main tank. The world doesn't revolve around you.
    It doesn't revolve around you either. If they have stance on, let the sprout try tanking. You've learned how to tank and hold aggro because people allowed you to learn, and you can return the same courtesy.
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