Reminder for mentors.

[Kohashi]

Being new doesn't give you the right to Tank. If you want to tank then hold agro. Just because they are a mentor doesn't mean that they want to tank or hand off main tank. The world doesn't revolve around you.

It doesn't revolve around you either. If they have stance on, let the sprout try tanking. You've learned how to tank and hold aggro because people allowed you to learn, and you can return the same courtesy.

[Miradelle]

It doesn't revolve around you either. If they have stance on, let the sprout try tanking. You've learned how to tank and hold aggro because people allowed you to learn, and you can return the same courtesy.

If it doesn't revolve around either, neither has the obligation to do what the other wants? Maybe the mentor queued for a roulette and wants to practice tanking? Would it be nice of them to let them tank it? Sure. There's also the probability that OP is mad, because people don't read chat and he's getting outdmged by mentors, who naturally rip threat.

[TaleraRistain]

If it doesn't revolve around either, neither has the obligation to do what the other wants? Maybe the mentor queued for a roulette and wants to practice tanking? Would it be nice of them to let them tank it? Sure. There's also the probability that OP is mad, because people don't read chat and he's getting outdmged by mentors, who naturally rip threat.

Then those mentors who have a 100 tank should make sure they know what shirking and stance dancing are. It's not remotely hard as an OT to control your aggro and still stay second in case the MT goes down.

[Miradelle]

Then those mentors who have a 100 tank should make sure they know what shirking and stance dancing are. It's not remotely hard as an OT to control your aggro and still stay second in case the MT goes down.

Idk what this has to do with anything? The OP is complaining about not getting to MT, which he is not entitled to just by the virtue of being a sprout. If the mentor wants to tank, as in move the boss around and such, then they are allowed to do that, too.

99% of time mentors just don't read chat and do more dmg than OP, though.

[ArmaDragkun]

Idk what this has to do with anything? The OP is complaining about not getting to MT, which he is not entitled to just by the virtue of being a sprout. If the mentor wants to tank, as in move the boss around and such, then they are allowed to do that, too.

99% of time mentors just don't read chat and do more dmg than OP, though.

Love how you ignore pretty much everything I put in my post. I'm saying that by going out of your way to put on the mentor crown you are then willingly becoming a.. And I'll quote this again. "Be an exemplar for player etiquette."

What yes means when someone asks to blind tank a boss for their first time encounter as a mentor you say "Yeah sure go for it" making the mental note to give advice if they screw up and wipe the raid.

If you don't like doing that... Guess what? DON'T BE A MENTOR WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH THAT TITLE AND ROLE.

Literally so many of the comments ignore the entire point of my post and want to try and push this whole agenda of "Oh OP just whines because he's not allowed to MT" No that's not the point. The point is the fact that as a mentor you are supposed to allow the other person to tank. That is literally part of the package of being a mentor.

If you want to MT and not allow a first timer to MT boss then take the damn crown off.

It's like volunteering to help someone drive and then refusing to allow them to drive. See the paradox? If you want to MT and you don't want to be and I'll quote it for the 5866th time "Be an exemplar for player etiquette." then take off the damn crown. Because that's what you SHOULD BE when you have the crown on.

It's honestly pathetic how many people are clearly mentors who are butthurt over the fact they feel called out for basically being an ego mentor. Who only want the rewards and the crown for their online ego. "Oh look at me I'm so super special and awesome because I have a little crown next to my name"

Frankly they should remove the crown. It's become one of the most toxic things people can become in this game since it's just used as a ego thing these days.

[Miradelle]

"Be an exemplar for player etiquette."

Just because YOU think it's part of etiquette for a mentor to acquiesce to a sprout, and abandon all their own wants, does not mean that it is. You won't get suspended nor a warning for not saying "sure go for it." If a mentor really wants to tank that day, but they get only sprouts on their first time, they HAVE TO give it up? It's NICE if they do, but not mandatory, especially for someone this entitled.

DON'T BE A MENTOR WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH THAT

Or .. If you have specific conditions and needs like this that no one else agrees to upon queueing up, then use the party finder. If it means to you this much, why risk getting someone that won't let you play out your main character fantasy?

you are supposed to allow the other person to tank. That is literally part of the package of being a mentor.

This here is the problem. People expect mentors to be this subclass that is supposed to just cuck out and make sure that others have the best possible time while ignoring their own wants. Newsflash, people who are mentors also play this game to have fun. If YOU want to change the mentor status to be that, then lobby for it. Mentors are just chill ppl that give advice.

then take the damn crown off.

What actually changes? The sprout still doesn't get to tank. You know what the mentor should do? They should advice them how to use the party finder for next time.

It's like volunteering to help someone drive and then refusing to allow them to drive

I'm sorry, where is THAT listed again that a mentor is supposed to take a backseat and forsake their own gameplay desires? Etiquette =//= Sacrifice own gameplay desires. You can argue it as much as you want, but until I see people getting suspended for MTing when a sprout asks to MT, then nope.

mentors who are butthurt over the fact they feel called out

Who's post is this is again that's crying about mentors not being their personal retainers? I've no issue with letting sprouts tank, I don't gain anything from tanking a boss, but I also don't think I am EXPECTED to do that. I'm disagreeing on principle of what mentors are expected to do. Like, just on principle, you have no issue if a non-mentor "ruins" a sprout's first time, but you do if it's a mentor?? Sounds like mentor racism /s

"Oh look at me I'm so super special and awesome

This is something only non-mentors say. Mentor status means nothing due to how easy it is to acquire. I'll put on my Mentor of Mentors title for you, though, since mentors like me seem to upset you so much.

they should remove the crown

FINALLY SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON

[ArmaDragkun]

It's pointless trying to talk to someone like you. You close your eyes and cover your ears screaming "lalalalalala" because you don't like what another person has posted.

Answer me if you can be bothered to open your eyes. What does "Be an exemplar for player etiquette" mean to you? Because just being polite doesn't mean shit when everyone else is polite to. Oh wait guess what? Non mentors give advice too. The whole point of being a god damn mentor is go ABOVE AND BEYOND what the average / normal player would do. So yes that means allowing a someone who is going into a new boss for the FIRST TIME the chance to tank it.

Honestly it's so annoying trying to get it into your mind that I'm not demanding I tank all the time only to be given the chance to MT the boss when it's my first ever time doing it. Especially when the content has been out for a while meaning anyone who has wanted to tank it has done so by now.

God you must be horrible to talk to in the real world. Anyone says anything you don't like and you just shut then down without even listening to their point of view.

[Altina_Orion]

It doesn't revolve around you either. If they have stance on, let the sprout try tanking. You've learned how to tank and hold aggro because people allowed you to learn, and you can return the same courtesy.

What a mindless double standard. Are you kidding me? I cant main tank if i want to because i have to let someone else do it because they want to? Use your brain.