Materia - Bismarck - Eastern La Noscea

[SalamanderIX]

So I would guess not every zone is created equal, in terms of having capacity. Since you can have places like Limsa several hundreds of players without issue, for instance.
Asking Square to change how zone loading seems like an unlikely fix, like maybe they could add some dynamic way of changing zones to have instances due to demand in the future, but by that time I would guess the party might be over.

Here's what I think is the best course of action for you guys. Find the event organizer and tell them the issue. bring some friends... be polite and say your concerns which are just regarding doing your msq and nodes. Then ask if maybe they could move it somewhere like one of the housing wards like maybe Mist or one of the hub cities? I've seen huge crowds in such places, like hundreds.

[TheDustyOne]

Here's what I think is the best course of action for you guys. Find the event organizer and tell them the issue.

Take what I say with a grain of salt since I only know about this event second hand from others rather than from the original organizer, but from what I had heard, even the organizer didn't plan on the event being this long. It really wouldn't surprise me if there's no one actually orchestrating it all and it's just people going in as a social hub at this point outside of anyone's control.

At the very least it'd be nice if people could disperse into the main cities and other zones, splitting that large of a crowd into 3 zones where the servers likely could handle a larger amount of players would still let people hang around as a large social gathering without it also affecting people trying to play the game normally. I don't think it's particularly fair that people who just want to play on their home server are effectively told to go to another server to be able to enjoy MSQ or whatever they were planning to do in the zones affected.

On a side note, I don't mind the idea that 1 or 2 of the servers in Materia could act as social hubs considering everyone is allowed to visit, hell it may even spring life into the queues and PF there; on the proviso that people don't just congregate into 1 zone on 1 server. At the very least spread out so that people playing don't get affected by the congestion.

[SophiaDL]

Take what I say with a grain of salt since I only know about this event second hand from others rather than from the original organizer, but from what I had heard, even the organizer didn't plan on the event being this long. It really wouldn't surprise me if there's no one actually orchestrating it all and it's just people going in as a social hub at this point outside of anyone's control.

At the very least it'd be nice if people could disperse into the main cities and other zones, splitting that large of a crowd into 3 zones where the servers likely could handle a larger amount of players would still let people hang around as a large social gathering without it also affecting people trying to play the game normally. I don't think it's particularly fair that people who just want to play on their home server are effectively told to go to another server to be able to enjoy MSQ or whatever they were planning to do in the zones affected.

On a side note, I don't mind the idea that 1 or 2 of the servers in Materia could act as social hubs considering everyone is allowed to visit, hell it may even spring life into the queues and PF there; on the proviso that people don't just congregate into 1 zone on 1 server. At the very least spread out so that people playing don't get affected by the congestion.

People arent there to queue for roulettes, you can look at that entire pile of people over there, not a single person is queuing roulettes, it's basically a gpose/afk hangout and the original organizer already said they're preparing another event for winter "winter bash" in which they plan to do the exact same as they did here, so they know what they're doing and that they're being a nuisance but dont care.

Multiple people told the organizer on X that they're being a nuisance to the already not many players on Materia, and the majority response was that people could world hop to a different server if they were bothered by it and that they had the right to have fun.

[TheDustyOne]

People arent there to queue for roulettes, you can look at that entire pile of people over there, not a single person is queuing roulettes,

I know, I visited a few days ago to see if I could do an expert roulette there. My thought around "springing life" was more of a long-term hope that, as people come to visit, then even queues could hopefully be a little shorter.

It is admittedly a vain hope.

Multiple people told the organizer on X that they're being a nuisance to the already not many players on Materia, and the majority response was that people could world hop to a different server if they were bothered by it and that they had the right to have fun.

While I don't have issues with people wanting to create their own social events, I agree with you on peoples response; it's incredibly selfish to ask people to not use their home server because you want to throw a party. At the very least organize it over multiple servers or zones to prevent congestion.

[WinterAmethyst]

So I would guess not every zone is created equal, in terms of having capacity. Since you can have places like Limsa several hundreds of players without issue, for instance.
Asking Square to change how zone loading seems like an unlikely fix, like maybe they could add some dynamic way of changing zones to have instances due to demand in the future, but by that time I would guess the party might be over.

Here's what I think is the best course of action for you guys. Find the event organizer and tell them the issue. bring some friends... be polite and say your concerns which are just regarding doing your msq and nodes. Then ask if maybe they could move it somewhere like one of the housing wards like maybe Mist or one of the hub cities? I've seen huge crowds in such places, like hundreds.

The event finished a week ago. Shout as I might (when I can access Eastern La Noscea), or when it over flowed into NN, I'ts not changing perceptions

[ChrysOCE]

The event finished a week ago. Shout as I might (when I can access Eastern La Noscea), or when it over flowed into NN, I'ts not changing perceptions

It's all just nsfw gposing and (literal) sex on the beach, if most of the X posts are anything to go by.

Also, I'm pretty sure they have stated the event will last as long as people show up for it. I don't think there is an actual end date, from the organizer. It's not even like they are distancing themselves, they are still actively participating in it.

[iiOmarSP]

It's all just nsfw gposing and (literal) sex on the beach, if most of the X posts are anything to go by.

Also, I'm pretty sure they have stated the event will last as long as people show up for it. I don't think there is an actual end date, from the organizer. It's not even like they are distancing themselves, they are still actively participating in it.

I'm pretty sure the intention was to be a very SFW party, but people have gotten so comfortable with it that it became the norm.
I'm not against data center travel and OCE being the hub for all worlds, but at least have some fucking decency to the locals in there.

I'm pretty sure the event organizer themselves were not aware of just how MASSIVE this event would have become, so I wouldn't blame them cause of how the party-goers decided its time be sex pests in:
1) an ARR zone.
2) an ARR zone that is MSQ required.
3) an ARR zone with two job quests in it (so its not just MSQ but also unlocking job abilities).

[Jeeqbit]

Asking Square to change how zone loading seems like an unlikely fix, like maybe they could add some dynamic way of changing zones to have instances due to demand in the future

How they make instances is actually to run a separate server program. This has been evident in no better place than the hunt system, where the hunts reset in a way that is evident of an entire server program being shutdown and restarted.

When there has been hardware failures, they say the affected zones and only specific instances are on specific machines. Common exceptions are wards though, where whole batches of 6 are often on the same machine.

So what I'm saying is that in the way SE does things, they would probably want to create these instances on entirely different machines, which is tricky but not necessarily impossible. The best example I can think of SE seeming to make dynamic instances is really the duty servers, so they may have a method for it available, but I doubt it's something they'd be able to just copy over. However if just 1 extra instance would help, they could add it during a maintenance, but as I mentioned I doubt they will. We can hope they do anyway.

[Limerence]

You're all getting a bit off topic

Thread was about issues getting into these zones and everyone that was still clogging up Bismarck for like a ridiculous amount of time. If it was one day its whatever but when these people that aren't native to that server keep clogging up the zones for days on end so bad people native to that server cant get timed nodes, cant do msq etc it's really unfair, rude and uncaring.

Simple solution would be just saying sorry and giving it a break instead of attacking people or insulting them. Name calling isn't necessary, everyone wants to enjoy the game.

This game used to have a good community once upon a time people getting so toxic, lately there is a us vs them mentality with everything. Everyone enjoys different aspects of the game. You do you but try not to be an A-hole to everyone else. Pretty simple really. We just want to be able to do basic things on our own server. Like anyone playing the game.