FFXIV population decline continues

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I'm skeptical to think they're referring to MSQ when Yoshi-P himself mentioned something along the line of "We will see how players react to 7.0 story..." (paraphrased) shortly before 7.0 came live. For a dev of -the story- based MMO, that was such a crazy thing to say lol.

[MicahZerrshia]

Well we still have 4 patches (7.3, 7.4, 7.5 and 7.55)

omg, we are 2 patches deep and it feels like we've been walking through mud for years. The thought of 4 more DT patches..... We should have just let the ascians have the star.

[Daralii]

I'm skeptical to think they're referring to MSQ when Yoshi-P himself mentioned something along the line of "We will see how players react to 7.0 story..." (paraphrased) shortly before 7.0 came live. For a dev of -the story- based MMO, that was such a crazy thing to say lol.

And then after it was out and the sentiment was overwhelmingly negative, he said that its reception was about what he expected. It's a good thing for Square that everyone will forget all that and preorder the next expansion immediately.

[MisterNublet]

Interestingly, the above was fed-back on an unofficial sub-reddit as I gather the mods on the Official FFXIV subreddit kept deleting threads pertaining to this.

Not surprising. The official subreddit, r/FFXIV, is trash. They are the epitome of toxic positivity and GCBTW.

Discussions there are nigh impossible or not worth the time as anything that sheds even the slightest negative light on the game is deleted or downvoted into oblivion.

[DynnDiablos]

Not surprising. The official subreddit, r/FFXIV, is trash. They are the epitome of toxic positivity and GCBTW.

Discussions there are nigh impossible or not worth the time as anything that sheds even the slightest negative light on the game is deleted or downvoted into oblivion.

I was run off and blocked from that sub-reddit. They are a "fun" bunch over there.

[Hallarem]

I'm skeptical to think they're referring to MSQ when Yoshi-P himself mentioned something along the line of "We will see how players react to 7.0 story..." (paraphrased) shortly before 7.0 came live. For a dev of -the story- based MMO, that was such a crazy thing to say lol.

The "We kinda wanted to see what sticks" shotgun approach instead of a clear plan kinda screams that they are lacking any sort of a talented team or plan behind the story at the moment. No wonder politics are axed off the list, doubt these new writers could write anything more complex than "This nation bad, this nation good, warrior of Light go to good nation, fight against bad nation, big evil appear, bad nation becomes good guys because good vibes and "need to work together" the end."

[MicahZerrshia]

And then after it was out and the sentiment was overwhelmingly negative, he said it its reception was about what he expected. It's a good thing for Square that everyone will forget all that and preorder the next expansion immediately.

What made this statement worse was the fact that he thought it was due to just being a new story arc overall and not due to the horrible writing and bad pacing that was basically a shallow attempt at recreating old expacs, bad/overused characters, dreadful voice acting, complete disregard for already established lore/characters coupled with designs that have absolutely none of that final fantasy feel because they just added irl items without the ff flair and then to ice the cake, shoehorning in tech that has major consequences for every single civilization and person on the star, but wait, it doesn't. And now our new antagonist is stock anime teen mad scientist #26

I will say though, the drop in quality was EW was apparent for those not blinded by fandom, but they took it too a whole new and impressive level with DT. So, tone deaf, I think is putting it lightly.

[Hallarem]

What made this statement worse was the fact that he thought it was due to just being a new story arc overall and not due to the horrible writing and bad pacing that was basically a shallow attempt at recreating old expacs, bad/overused characters, dreadful voice acting, complete disregard for already established lore/characters coupled with designs that have absolutely none of that final fantasy feel because they just added irl items without the ff flair and then to ice the cake, shoehorning in tech that has major consequences for every single civilization and person on the star, but wait, it doesn't. And now our new antagonist is stock anime teen mad scientist #26

I will say though, the drop in quality was EW was apparent for those not blinded by fandom, but they took it too a whole new and impressive level with DT. So, tone deaf, I think is putting it lightly.

You can pretty much summarize the new villains dialogue into one sentence: "Hmmm.. my calculations"

Endwalker was the beginning yes, it destroyed worldbuilding, the balance of the world, the lore partially and hid the destruction in the middle of some neatly packaged emotional moments which I too liked.
DT just blatantly did an "insert FF AND insert "Oh this was a popular thing as a game right? Lets directly insert it into game, but do it horridly." Here's your cowboys from Red Dead Redemption... but with rubber bullets! because we wouldnt want anyone to get hurt! Here's your cyberpunk but with a society of toddlers, here's Tural, that has a magical peace forged by tacos and belief in papas peace, a 5 minute skypecall to Radz At Han to make an Alliance with a nation Vrtra knows NOTHING about, for a dragon cameo without any dialogue. Also have a random GUNDAM, because the devs must've been shaking in their seats to finally unleash their fanboying over it and RAMMED it into the game.

[Mawlzy]

What made this statement worse was the fact that he thought it was due to just being a new story arc overall and not due to the horrible writing and bad pacing that was basically a shallow attempt at recreating old expacs, bad/overused characters, dreadful voice acting, complete disregard for already established lore/characters coupled with designs that have absolutely none of that final fantasy feel because they just added irl items without the ff flair and then to ice the cake, shoehorning in tech that has major consequences for every single civilization and person on the star, but wait, it doesn't. And now our new antagonist is stock anime teen mad scientist #26

I will say though, the drop in quality was EW was apparent for those not blinded by fandom, but they took it too a whole new and impressive level with DT. So, tone deaf, I think is putting it lightly.

That was the end for me. It made the plot of a Power Puff Girls episode look sophisticated.

[DynnDiablos]

You can pretty much summarize the new villains dialogue into one sentence: "Hmmm.. my calculations"

Endwalker was the beginning yes, it destroyed worldbuilding, the balance of the world, the lore partially and hid the destruction in the middle of some neatly packaged emotional moments which I too liked.
DT just blatantly did an "insert FF AND insert "Oh this was a popular thing as a game right? Lets directly insert it into game, but do it horridly." Here's your cowboys from Red Dead Redemption... but with rubber bullets! because we wouldnt want anyone to get hurt! Here's your cyberpunk but with a society of toddlers, here's Tural, that has a magical peace forged by tacos and belief in papas peace, a 5 minute skypecall to Radz At Han to make an Alliance with a nation Vrtra knows NOTHING about, for a dragon cameo without any dialogue. Also have a random GUNDAM, because the devs must've been shaking in their seats to finally unleash their fanboying over it and RAMMED it into the game.

Endwalker's post-MSQ patches were the first time I started skipping cutscenes in 12 years. Some of the worst writing, storylines ever. At least I thought...until I experienced Dawntrail. Amazing how quickly my excitement melted away, thinking I was getting a fun "summer vacation" detour expansion and wound up with that tonally enept swill.