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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Cost meant "development cost", not "financial cost". Which is another way of saying Yoshi-P didn't put it in the development roadmap and that it was a management/decision issue. Obviously SE has plenty of funds, they are even hiring.
    Everything boils down to money at the end, lets assume they are operating at 90% capacity to just keep the game at this current pace, that means that they have not been allocated enough resources (Developers, Artists, Designers etc...) to give the game what it needs. I hope that their hiring frees up resources to remain on FFXIV not to replace ones that are leaving, that is what we'll only know long term.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    i love seeing people like OP who apparently have never played an FF game other than FFXIV
    it's SO goofy
    This is actually my first FF game, I'm curious as to what the tell is and goofy about it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenoDiogenes View Post
    I mean at least bundle all other games on a "Game Pass" that comes with the subscription, if you reallocate money to other projects.
    Basically everyone who plays xiv and buys other SE games pays double.
    I mean the quality of output at the moment basically rivals (at best) games with no sub and have a store, cash store, standard sub, large playerbase, what we get does not justify the revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    This is actually my first FF game, I'm curious as to what the tell is and goofy about it ?
    Nobody who has played more than one FF would refer to FFXIV as "FF" because that's misleading - SE does use FFXIV money to improve FF... Just not FFXIV. That's why we can get Tactics Remaster (a CBU3 game), FFVIIR (not CBU3 but eats a fuckton of the budget), assorted FF-related mobage (one is FFVII and I think they killed most of the rest).

    So yeah, what you want is SE reinvesting FFXIV sub money into FFXIV - and I agree with that! But it's my pet peeve when people think FF is a shorthand for FFXIV in this context x)

    e/: The reason why SE can't find developers is that their process involves crazy code debt and bad legacy systems - no fresh blood will deal with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Nobody who has played more than one FF would refer to FFXIV as "FF" because that's misleading - SE does use FFXIV money to improve FF... Just not FFXIV. That's why we can get Tactics Remaster (a CBU3 game), FFVIIR (not CBU3 but eats a fuckton of the budget), assorted FF-related mobage (one is FFVII and I think they killed most of the rest).

    So yeah, what you want is SE reinvesting FFXIV sub money into FFXIV - and I agree with that! But it's my pet peeve when people think FF is a shorthand for FFXIV in this context x)

    e/: The reason why SE can't find developers is that their process involves crazy code debt and bad legacy systems - no fresh blood will deal with this.
    Bro you're grasping at straws on this one. Zero point dying on that hill and distracting from the actual problem at hand which is underfunding XIV with the money made from XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    e/: The reason why SE can't find developers is that their process involves crazy code debt and bad legacy systems - no fresh blood will deal with this.
    Sorry, but without the insight into their code base, this is pure speculation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    This is actually my first FF game, I'm curious as to what the tell is and goofy about it ?
    Unironically it's my first ff game and probably last. Also, because of ff14 devs i deeply hate every other ff games old or new or upcoming.

    Such a silly concept to burn money on side projects and complain about additional cost.
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