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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    I like when Cider Spider mentioned in his recent video that even with "streamer privilege" he was unable to get a group together to enter tower.
    I saw that. I really appreciated that he was trying to get things together in-game. I wish more streamers would lean that way instead of of embracing the "Pre-made only" mentality.
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    you not clearing if you pug it.

    join a discord and prog it.. or don't and never clear it.

    that's up to you.

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    Last edited by Bryson; 06-18-2025 at 04:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    you not clearing if you pug it.

    join a discord and prog it.. or don't and never clear it.

    that's up to you.

    Thanks for providing incriminating evidence of exactly the type of discord snob gatekeeping mentality that is pervasive over there.
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  5. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    Thanks for providing incriminating evidence of exactly the type of discord snob gatekeeping mentality that is pervasive over there.
    huh? I'm saying the opposite.
    The way SE implemented this, i'm saying it's very unlikely 48 randoms clear FT. Discords increase the likelihood you clear. How's that "gatekeeping" ??? It's the reality of the situation given the way they went about the content.

    If umad, you should be upset with SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    huh? I'm saying the opposite.
    The way SE implemented this, i'm saying it's very unlikely 48 randoms clear FT. Discords increase the likelihood you clear. How's that "gatekeeping" ??? It's the reality of the situation given the way they went about the content.

    If umad, you should be upset with SE.
    I am mad at you too cause you're literally doing the definition of gatekeeping and trolling with that pic of you clearing. 'go through my server or don't prog'. Insane that you can't see that is gatekeeping. This whole fiasco has made me realize how un fucking believably toxic some of you elitists are.
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  7. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    I am mad at you too cause you're literally doing the definition of gatekeeping and trolling with that pic of you clearing. 'go through my server or don't prog'. Insane that you can't see that is gatekeeping. This whole fiasco has made me realize how un fucking believably toxic some of you elitists are.
    it's not my server?
    gatekeeping is the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.

    I'm not doing that? how would I even go about preventing someone from joining? any level 20 whose on the platform has a chance (which you can increase by providing a cipher)

    what full pug group has cleared FT? hell, what full pug group has cleared the 1st boss?

    I don't think you understand the reality of the situation right now regarding FT because you sound very confused.

    you getting a little too into your feelings.

    also what's this talk about elitism? there are people with FT clears who don't do savage/ults.. the fights themselves are around ex difficulty.
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    Last edited by Bryson; 06-18-2025 at 06:52 AM.

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    I don't know what they'll address on Friday. Major changes to the content would require dev time which costs money, and somehow I just can't imagine them doing that. When is the last time they changed the way a piece of content worked after its release? Diadem?

    Plus it's apparently working as intended, whether we like it or not, and only SE knows what their goal for the content was, or how many people have actually done it.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    No, we are not going to prog that crap in it's current state.
    I said the same thing? Premades through discord counter how bad they went about it. I didn't say it should be this way.. I stated a fact. 48 randoms aren't progging this right now.. discord increases the likelihood you can prog and clear.

    My hunch is you..
    A. Haven't done FT once
    B. Refuse to join any discords to prog it.

    also who is your "we"??? people are progging it.. just not with randoms. speak for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Join a discord and sign up for a scheduled run. Also, what Falak said.

    I know people who say this think they are being helpful. But they aren't and it just highlights the problem with the content. How much of the game requires you to organize through a third party app? Now have content that requires that, can the "discord it" people not see how jarring that is. If people wanted that kind of MMO they would not play 14. It is such a weird design choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I know people who say this think they are being helpful. But they aren't and it just highlights the problem with the content. How much of the game requires you to organize through a third party app? Now have content that requires that, can the "discord it" people not see how jarring that is. If people wanted that kind of MMO they would not play 14. It is such a weird design choice.
    it was helpful for me. I joined a discord, and joined a run that works with my work schedule. i continued to join, continued to prog, and eventually cleared.

    discord isn't that scary? i muted my mic and listened to callouts. not hard at all.

    don't want to? that's fine too.. but you not clearing with 47 other randoms outside of discord.
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