Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

[Volgia]

See this is the problem. You actually BELIEVE this archaic design is 'acceptable' cause you're one of them discord elitists and if people aren't part of your clique they're 'anti social dumb casuals'.

People organizing in game like they're suppose to is 'antisocial' to you.

I mean the "archaic" design is exactly what they were going for, and it hasn't stopped players from clearing the content they presented. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's failed content.

You can organize it in-game through text, but most people with a crumble of common sense would ask why don't we just do this through voice? Cuz it's easier to call out on voice than to have to write stuff mid-mechanics.

I'm not sure why you're so scared of discord anyways, you can outright mute yourself and follow instructions and get through FT just fine.

[Saraide]

I mean the "archaic" design is exactly what they were going for, and it hasn't stopped players from clearing the content they presented. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's failed content.

You can organize it in-game through text, but most people with a crumble of common sense would ask why don't we just do this through voice? Cuz it's easier to call out on voice than to have to write stuff mid-mechanics.

I'm not sure why you're so scared of discord anyways, you can outright mute yourself and follow instructions and get through FT just fine.

I on the other hand am quite sure why the person you responded to has a difficult time with discord.

[Volgia]

Who says I am scared? I tried to enter via discord, I just absolutely hate the hoops you have to jump through to get in a run, even WITH discord. The content is failed period. 99% of people will give up just trying to get any consistent prog going.

I mean the way you call me Discord Elitist makes me think you're scared of engaging with people through voice. Like Discord's a standard for playing games online, you can go into OverwatchMarvel Rivals ranked with a group and you will 99% of the time use Discord.

I on the other hand am quite sure why the person you responded to has a difficult time with discord.

I wanted to give him some grace but it's starting to look like that for me as well lmao.

[Mawlzy]

I mean the way you call me Discord Elitist makes me think you're scared of engaging with people through voice. Like Discord's a standard for playing games online, you can go into OverwatchMarvel Rivals ranked with a group and you will 99% of the time use Discord.

You understand this applies to a significant minority of the player base?

[itachi-otsutsuki]

I mean the way you call me Discord Elitist makes me think you're scared of engaging with people through voice. Like Discord's a standard for playing games online, you can go into OverwatchMarvel Rivals ranked with a group and you will 99% of the time use Discord.



I wanted to give him some grace but it's starting to look like that for me as well lmao.

You are a discord elitist. I just explained the why. And you insist on making up some sort of personal attack about me being 'big scared to enter voice chat'. The voice chat isn't even the crux of why discord is such a barrier for people, and even if it is, you can even do ultimates without voice chat. SE doesn't design content to require voice chat so people shouldn't be forced to use it by discord gatekeepers and elitists like you.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I mean the way you call me Discord Elitist makes me think you're scared of engaging with people through voice. Like Discord's a standard for playing games online, you can go into OverwatchMarvel Rivals ranked with a group and you will 99% of the time use Discord.



I wanted to give him some grace but it's starting to look like that for me as well lmao.

I wouldn't call you discord elitist at all but mostly your prefered way to play. But try to see that not everyone might enjoy it in itself so if a content cannot be done thro in-game chat for me there is a problem. Making thing hard is fine but forked is well kinda in a bad spot because of how you enter and then people pushing away the others that doesn't use discord make it not just unfriendly but damage the content overall.

[Volgia]

I wouldn't call you discord elitist at all but mostly your prefered way to play. But try to see that not everyone might enjoy it in itself so if a content cannot be done thro in-game chat for me there is a problem. Making thing hard is fine but forked is well kinda in a bad spot because of how you enter and then people pushing away the others that doesn't use discord make it not just unfriendly but damage the content overall.

TBH I'm not even into Discord that much, I mostly prefer to play without voice, but I am also not especially against it since this content in particular doesn't require me to talk to anyone but to listen to someone guide me through the dungeon. It's why I'm surprised at the hostility and thinking that discord is the "scourge of humanity".

Trying to see the silver lining here for me is that just like Odin says, the clunky way this was designed forced me to interact with people and eventually make friends over trying to clear BA and Eureka.

[Mawlzy]

TBH I'm not even into Discord that much, I mostly prefer to play without voice, but I am also not especially against it since this content in particular doesn't require me to talk to anyone but to listen to someone guide me through the dungeon. It's why I'm surprised at the hostility and thinking that discord is the "scourge of humanity".

Trying to see the silver lining here for me is that just like Odin says, the clunky way this was designed forced me to interact with people and eventually make friends over trying to clear BA and Eureka.

This simplest explanation is that many players have had extremely negative experiences with FF14 Discord.

[OdinelStarrei]

This simplest explanation is that many players have had extremely negative experiences with FF14 Discord.

The FF14 Discord is run by REDDIT.

Of course their experience is going to be horrendous!

[0blivion]

This simplest explanation is that many players have had extremely negative experiences with FF14 Discord.

I mean, why bring it up if not to imply that they think that being in the r/ffxiv discord is the same as joining one of the like, 5 major field exploration discords.