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    I had a revelation the other day, and I'm just going to copy paste my other post.

    They make Chaotic. There is considerable backlash. Maybe even huge.
    Then they make another instance like Chaotic, but now they make REALLY sure casuals don't stand a chance of even getting in without involvement in a discord that only experienced hardcore players will be able to get approved to.
    I too have been sitting here going, "what were they thinking?"

    However, I now realise they knew 'exactly' what they were thinking. These people just aren't stupid. They are not.
    We know they aren't stupid.
    So the only thing that remains is it's deliberate.

    They were willfully caring only to seriously cater for high end. 'Every' indicator corroborates that but I just haven't wanted to think it.
    They will have known what these actions will continue to do to the community and gaming demographic, and that is the point we need to take away.

    Not rational financial sense? Since when have people been rational?
    Yes there will be motivations, but those could be anyone's and anything.

    What we have seen goes beyond accidental oversight.

    It just does. They are 'not' stupid.

    (Either that or one last option, which was they were trying to separate hardcore, from super hardcore, and educate them as to what it feels like to be a casual sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else have fun. But that would be stupid because it assumes that group have good empathy, and I'm not being snarky but that's just clearly not the case. This would be extra levels of ludicrous thinking.)
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-13-2025 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    I had a revelation the other day, and I'm just going to copy paste my other post.

    They make Chaotic. There is considerable backlash. Maybe even huge.
    Then they make another instance like Chaotic, but now they make REALLY sure casuals don't stand a chance of even getting in without involvement in a discord that only experienced hardcore players will be able to get approved to.
    I too have been sitting here going, "what were they thinking?"

    However, I now realise they knew 'exactly' what they were thinking. These people just aren't stupid. They are not.
    We know they aren't stupid.
    So the only thing that remains is it's deliberate.

    They were willfully caring only to seriously cater for high end. 'Every' indicator corroborates that but I just haven't wanted to think it.
    They will have known what these actions will continue to do to the community and gaming demographic, and that is the point we need to take away.

    Not rational financial sense? Since when have people been rational?
    Yes there will be motivations, but those could be anyone's and anything.

    What we have seen goes beyond accidental oversight.

    It just does. They are 'not' stupid.

    (Either that or one last option, which was they were trying to separate hardcore, from super hardcore, and educate them as to what it feels like to be a casual sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else have fun. But that would be stupid because it assumes that group have good empathy, and I'm not being snarky but that's just clearly not the case. This would be extra levels of ludicrous thinking.)

    I agree. The whole thing has had too much work be put into it for it to not be deliberate. They knew of better options (DR,DRS,CLL,DAL) but chose this.

    My guess is that putting FT in the casual farm instance makes it visible and fancy , even if no one can enter it. And if the streamer sweats can make a huge show out of it, apparently that's all they need.
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    Last edited by itachi-otsutsuki; 06-13-2025 at 08:27 PM.

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