Occult Relic grind needs to change.

[Immut]

The only thing that needs to change is they need to remove the option to progress in occult crescent without actually being in occult crescent.

And maybe bump up the event spawn rate for the southwest corner.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The moment I noticed they’re bringing a sliver of RNG grind that is pseudo-atma grinds, I know exactly that I’ll be disappointed if I solely focus on that, so I take a moment to reevaluate my approach. In the end I came up with the following goals:
- I want to max all phantom jobs.
- I want to pick up all the Arcanaut’s gears, at least the base gears.
- Upgrading the gears, probably!

Relics? Maybe I’ll get it in 5 days. Maybe I’ll get it in a month or two. But I don’t think that matters to me. I will be spending a long time to get those two or three goals foremost. I have a wide window of time to ‘try my luck’ to blast through the RNG grind, and thankfully they’re only one-time completion! Beyond that, it’s 1,500 tomes per weapons.

[VeyaAkemi]

The moment I noticed they’re bringing a sliver of RNG grind that is pseudo-atma grinds, I know exactly that I’ll be disappointed if I solely focus on that, so I take a moment to reevaluate my approach. In the end I came up with the following goals:
- I want to max all phantom jobs.
- I want to pick up all the Arcanaut’s gears, at least the base gears.
- Upgrading the gears, probably!

Relics? Maybe I’ll get it in 5 days. Maybe I’ll get it in a month or two. But I don’t think that matters to me. I will be spending a long time to get those two or three goals foremost. I have a wide window of time to ‘try my luck’ to blast through the RNG grind, and thankfully they’re only one-time completion! Beyond that, it’s 1,500 tomes per weapons.

This is also where I am at but to me those were always the goal, I am still missing 3 Phantom Jobs(Ranger, Geomancer, and Thief), and I only leveled 2 to max, so I feel I have a long, long way to go on that front alone, surely I will get everything I need by the time I am done.

[Misutoraru]

Huh, it's almost like the only two options they know are "Free" and "Screw you grind for 40 hours"

ShB relic wasn’t as grindy as ARR/HW or free like EW.

Never understand what’s in the mind of SE they seem swinging from one extreme to another

[Hallarem]

ShB relic wasn’t as grindy as ARR/HW or free like EW.

Never understand what’s in the mind of SE they seem swinging from one extreme to another

Honestly. If nothing this already confirms they are lacking vision and direction for the future. All they need to do is say something like: "Oh it was a big bad pulling the strings that made all these nations go to war and devour their neighbours. Not just greed / self preservation." Dawntrail softing and ruining lore from before, and we got a wonderful 5/10 finished product.

OC is very mid at best. Not offensively so, but its far from exciting. Doesnt help that they took SO LONG to release where a lot of the playerbase is mentally checked out already

[Deedlit]

It might actually be tolerable if they'd hotfixed fate HP, but that's a blood from stone thing with SE.

[XtremePrime]

With it being a one time grind (if the rumors are true) I think it's perfect. It's the best of both worlds. People that wanted the grindy bit still got the grindy bit that they need to work towards, and then it becomes a tome sync, so it's a good middle ground!

[Iyrnthota]

Does it make sense now?

I mean, frankly, no. But more in a "that's not how I work" kind of way.

I don't measure how valuable my free time is by how much I've achieved or progressed by the end. I value it by how much fun I've had.

I could play an RPG and gain 10 levels, or I could play some random casual multiplayer game and make no notable progress, but if I enjoyed the latter more, I value that time more.

My free time is for doing what I want to do, and what I want to do is have fun, not necessarily make number go up. I do enough of that at work.
Speaking of.

I only read the comments from you on this page, but holy do they scream "no work".

Then I would kindly suggest you get your hearing checked, because the screaming is not coming from me. I work a contracted 0900-17:30, 5 days a week, and every other week am on call 24/7.

[ForteNightshade]

The entire point of an in-game "grind" is to "waste" time.

If anyone wanted to feel otherwise, they'd close the game and spend their time trying to alleviate any number of issues plaguing the not-in-game world.

There is a stark difference between willing "wasting time" while engaging with something fun and spending hours grinding for something someone else got in half the time because RNG said "sucks to be you"

[Zakon]

I mean, frankly, no. But more in a "that's not how I work" kind of way.

I don't measure how valuable my free time is by how much I've achieved or progressed by the end. I value it by how much fun I've had.

I could play an RPG and gain 10 levels, or I could play some random casual multiplayer game and make no notable progress, but if I enjoyed the latter more, I value that time more.

My free time is for doing what I want to do, and what I want to do is have fun, not necessarily make number go up. I do enough of that at work.
Speaking of.

You really don't understand that when given the option between two activities, both of which you find enjoyable, you would prefer to pick the one that is actually rewarding you for the time you spent on it?