Can we talk about the neglect Square Enix shows towards the playerbase?

[Mawlzy]

Maybe but sometimes I also appreciate actually playing with people of my skill level or above. If the idea is to make serious players just go for queue syncs like in FL with premades and invade CC during certain times... I guess? Or having to make customs, is this the idea? People constantly want tryhards out of their mode in FLs, why would it be different in CC?

Oh I very much think there should still be matchmaking. I think that should occur whenever possible in any PvP mode. Just seems to me this artificial distinction between ranked and casual in CC causes a lot of problems for ranked, such as this irritating DC travel requirement.

[Valence]

And I would just use the same matchmaking from ranked for the remaining mode if there is only 1. Why does it need to be hidden? It is already public information anyway. Just as frontline wins are public even though its "casual" content.
There can be even another mode like The Fold (no respawn), that is faster for a casual round

Because if you make everything ranked then by definition people aren't queueing into something casual anymore because they'll constantly be ranked, rated and placed into different leagues. I don't think it's exactly rocket science to see how it would completely kill CC participation and push everybody into FL exclusively. Most people don't want to play ranked.

Oh I very much think there should still be matchmaking. I think that should occur whenever possible in any PvP mode. Just seems to me this artificial distinction between ranked and casual in CC causes a lot of problems for ranked, such as this irritating DC travel requirement.

But what would it achieve to merge both? I'm not against it, but if we keep matchmaking as current, this isn't helping current ranked leagues in any way since they'll just keep being matched between each other anyway. Unless the idea is to have matchmaking expand and bleedover the current league barriers and encompass a higher elo/mmr pool of player, and thus, do we mix casual players with diam/crystal? Else I really don't see what it changes.

DC travel is another story altogether, we didn't have this before and I don't think mixing this problem with a ranked/casual merge makes a lot of sense.

[Mawlzy]

Because if you make everything ranked then by definition people aren't queueing into something casual anymore because they'll constantly be ranked, rated and placed into different leagues. I don't think it's exactly rocket science to see how it would completely kill CC participation and push everybody into FL exclusively. Most people don't want to play ranked.



But what would it achieve to merge both? I'm not against it, but if we keep matchmaking as current, this isn't helping current ranked leagues in any way since they'll just keep being matched between each other anyway. Unless the idea is to have matchmaking expand and bleedover the current league barriers and encompass a higher elo/mmr pool of player, and thus, do we mix casual players with diam/crystal? Else I really don't see what it changes.

DC travel is another story altogether, we didn't have this before and I don't think mixing this problem with a ranked/casual merge makes a lot of sense.

I guess I regard the casual/ranked distinction as artificial and simply something that splits the player pool, thereby prompting things like DC travel.

I like the idea of opting in to actually appear on a ranked leaderboard. My guess is that outside of the very top players, there are likely players currently queueing for casual who dislike the notion of rankings that would help populate the upper echelons.

[Loggos]

Oh I very much think there should still be matchmaking. I think that should occur whenever possible in any PvP mode. Just seems to me this artificial distinction between ranked and casual in CC causes a lot of problems for ranked, such as this irritating DC travel requirement.

I do think that ranked and casuals have their purposes. Casuals are a place where low (or no-)rank players can play with high-rank players. That may sound like a headache at first but it also enables things like friends of different skill levels or even whole discord communities queueing together. I don't think custom PF matches can replace this, esp. if it's just two or three people wanting to get into matches together.
So I would like to keep both. Otherwise there are friends I'd never be able to play with (or against) again.

[Mawlzy]

I do think that ranked and casuals have their purposes. Casuals are a place where low (or no-)rank players can play with high-rank players. That may sound like a headache at first but it also enables things like friends of different skill levels or even whole discord communities queueing together. I don't think custom PF matches can replace this, esp. if it's just two or three people wanting to get into matches together.
So I would like to keep both. Otherwise there are friends I'd never be able to play with (or against) again.

Custom matches?

[Loggos]

Custom matches?

You'll need a full group for that so it only really works in specific circumstances. If you want to queue with one/two/three/etc. friends then you'd have to choose casual matches.